[Enioch]

It's hardcoded and not related to the ammo of your main weapons.

[Col. Fishguts]

But hardcoded to what? Do certain guns always shoot HE and others always shoot AP?

[Scourge of Ages]

As a Nagato captain, I can confirm that the Scharnhorst is one of my most dreaded foes, and I learned very fast to NOT close to brawling range against them.
I also noticed that secondaries fire both types of shells, I just assumed it was based on the specific cannon, but have no source for this.

EDIT: this thread: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/50723-secondary-guns-issue-complete-analysis-and-possible-fix/
Indicates that the ammo type is tied to caliber and also nation/ship:

In game as it is, the size of the secondary gun more-or-less defines what shell type it will fire, but it is a somewhat blurry line as guns between 1mm-150mm fire HE, however guns between 140mm-155mm fire AP. that small overlap is more or less picked by balancing. This shell type issue is why USN BBs, of which ALL secondary guns on them are 127mm, all fire HE shells. As opposed to all the casement guns lining IJN bbs till tier 8 which are 140mm-152mm all fire AP shells. This is the probable reason as to why USN BBs get shorter ranges on their secondary armament. This theme is quirked by the fact that Izumo and Yamato switch over to primarily 127mm guns, and in addition receive even farther range on them.

[Enioch]

^This

Which is why the NAgato, despite its huge secondary battery, does relatively little damage with them. No fires and lots of bounces.

[Spoon]

Depends what its firing on. Nagato's secondary batteries are perfectly capable of scoring citadel hits on cruisers.

[StarSlayer]

She can delete a Cleveland in close action on secondaries alone.

[Enioch]

Oh yeah, no argument there. I was talking about, y'know competent cruiser drivers. Who don't drive their cruisers broadside-onto ten 140mms firing AP at under 7.6km.

The slightest angle can defeat those secs if you're driving a cruiser. Interestingly, they do more damage to angled destroyers, because they don't overpen. What I find they're relatively useless against are BBs, because they just bounce off unless you're close and they give you a broadside. And with all the Scharns and Gneises sailing around, you can't really close the range like you used to because torps.

Meanwhile, HE-firing secondaries on other ships can give you insane fire damage. Don't get me wrong, I love my Nagato and I acknowledge she would be OP at T7 if she fired a full HE secondary broadside.

[Enioch]

So, there's a BB special. And there's like 900+ BBs in queue right now. You know what that means.



Ibuki, deploy!

[Spoon]

The normal response to "There's a lot of battleboats in queue" is not "Let's bring out a cruiser" 

[Enioch]

Then you're not cruisin' hard enough.

[Rodo]

Really? I'm not taking my CA's out this week then. Well maybe the Clev, I have to end that horrible grind someday.

[Enioch]

...he says, on his way to the Pepsi   

[Rodo]

I'd LOVE to have the pepsi instead of the Clev.

I'd much rather be nuked in a second than wait an eternity for my frikkin shells to come down from the stratosphere.
Choosing the Clev is choosing a slow and improductive death.

I can fight insta-deletions with awareness, I cannot fight poor shell velocity with anything

[StarSlayer]

The weapon performance on the post CBT Cleveland is pretty aggravating.  It's still pretty lolsy in close action when the arcs flatten out, she can chew up even a Standard BB yard arm to yard arm but at range its a joke.  I'd be curious if running a concealment build and abuse islands to get into favorable range would be a better play style

I didn't have a bad time with Penny Cola in CBT but nowadays they always seem to be the first ship lit up and then eat a freight train of AP.

[Enioch]

Sooooooo. Ranked season 5

I'll be starting along the high T6 / low T8 bracket, given the multitude of stars I gathered last season. I'm mostly concerned about my T8 roster.

I've been steadily grinding to the Benson and I should have a T5 captain ready relatively shortly (thank you Dragon Flags!). Do you think the gunship meta will still be viable for this season?

How do you think the Amagi will stand up to the influx of Tirps and Biskos?

[Spoon]

When you torpedo beat in a competitive game just right.
https://my.mixtape.moe/zslukt.webm

and earlier that game: https://my.mixtape.moe/zilrxs.webm

[StarSlayer]

I think I would have to sell my Can if that happened...

Not to take away from your Beats cuz they was Dank but why stop in front of your DP guns? 

[crizza]

Thats a serious cluster****

[Scourge of Ages]

Not to take away from your Beats cuz they was Dank but why stop in front of your DP guns? 

My guess is that no destroyer captain actually EXPECTS secondaries to do anything, and he didn't want to give up his torpedo angle. That's my only guess.

[Enioch]

Wow. Just wow. Yeah, I'll just sit here and let the Crane shoot me herpaderp. Still, dank beats.

On another topic, WHY DID I NOT PLAY GUNSHIPS in previous ranked seasons? Holy crap, it's .... SO much easier.