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Offline Tiara

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Reply #120 on: July 28, 2002, 10:00:50 am
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I mean the people of the United Kingdom will be given very little representation and that our interests will not be looked after. We already sit in a difficult position in the current EU, I fear our people would be given second class treatment in a united Europe - as a result of centralized power.


This is stupid. Do you think the people of a united Europe are a bunch of retarded racists? Nono. At least I know that many countries would even be nice to the UK. You are still a powerfull nation even though not the most powerfull. The only reason that might happen if a pair of screwy english ministers go insult and openly show their distrust in the united EU.
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Reply #121 on: July 28, 2002, 10:01:01 am
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You have a point that less history probably makes it easier but that is no reason not to try. As I see it a big European super state is the only way to keep America in check. No offence Americans out there, we agree a lot of the time but when we dont America has a tendancy to walk all over us on things like trade conflicts or just ignore us when it involves the environment.

Also it seems we are unable to launch military operations without the support of Americans. So when they dont want to be involved (which is their right) then we do nothing as well. Paddy Ashdown was warning us about Bosnia years before we actually went in and sorted it out.


Alright, then why not try and change our government so that we DO act without America?
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Reply #122 on: July 28, 2002, 10:02:33 am
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His father (or mother) was part Jewish. Why do you think he hated Jewish people?



Ug, now this right here drives me up the damn wall.  No pun intended of course, but try reading Hitler's own book or one of the other dozen books that is based off his own first before you start posting stuff like that.  Hitler was not Jewish, he came for a christian family in Austria, and 1/8 jew?  Ummm....Judaism is a Faith not a race of people.  He began hating the jewish people when he was a bum on the streets living in one of those housing things I forgot what they were called that gave him just a cot and inside a cubicle to live in for just a few pennies a day.  He did post card drawings and had another guy sell them for him to make some money.  He had noticed that there was a lot of jewish bums in the slums of the city.  This is where Hilter had began to hate them because he did not believe they were German in his eyes, that they were different and even he couldn't figure out what made them different in his eyes, but he did not want them to be part of his Germany.
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #123 on: July 28, 2002, 10:03:56 am
Now THAT was a topic jump...:eek:
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Reply #124 on: July 28, 2002, 10:05:19 am
Damn, my sinister plans to conquer Europe have been thwarted by a topic change... :D

Btw-  the people of Europe might be nice, but I don't trust politicians... of any country. (to think I wanted to be one once)
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #125 on: July 28, 2002, 10:05:51 am
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Damn, my sinister plans to conquer Europe have been thwarted by a topic change... :D


You would've lost :D
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Offline CODEDOG ND

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Reply #126 on: July 28, 2002, 10:07:09 am
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Now THAT was a topic jump...:eek:


sorry ive been busy and just had to say something about that since I've read the book.
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Reply #127 on: July 28, 2002, 10:07:41 am
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I agree with  the security thing but it seems strange that you look at Europe as a threat when its a choice and something we can shape ourselves. Whereas on the other hand you are happy with England being in control of us when they achieved that with years of blood and oppression.

 


I would really Like to know your opinion on what I wrote earlier.
Another point is that the English actively tryed to purge the Scottishness out of us. They banned bagbipes and many others things. If England couldnt manage it with a sword to our throat Europe never can by accident.
  

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Reply #128 on: July 28, 2002, 10:07:55 am
We shall see...
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Reply #129 on: July 28, 2002, 10:14:29 am
Its interesting that we are having this debate in a freespace formum. What if the Universe is populated and we eventually open relations with other races. Your whole planet may have to be represented as a whole!

So what? Scotland will still be Scottish (unless it gets nuked in WW3).
 

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Reply #130 on: July 28, 2002, 10:37:25 am
Its not as simple as maintaining ones national identity. Centralised power breeds corruption, corruption results in the PEOPLE suffering, whether they be Scottish, English, French, German, Italian...

(going back a bit ) And, um, I'll let you in on a secret RT - I used to support full independence. (I was a full member of snp) I got disullusioned by the fact that the Scottish parliament is a joke. Oh well.
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Offline RandomTiger

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Reply #131 on: July 28, 2002, 10:59:36 am
Your right in that. Corruption is a worry but its a worry at the moment as well. Im not impressed in many ways with the UK government or the Scottish and Im sure there would be problems with a European Super State but I believe the good will outway the bad.

Bit this is were our individuality reinforced by history will help people / countrys to stand out against obvious unfairness.
 

Offline Tiara

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Reply #132 on: July 28, 2002, 11:02:55 am
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Your right in that. Corruption is a worry but its a worry at the moment as well. Im not impressed in many ways with the UK government or the Scottish and Im sure there would be problems with a European Super State but I believe the good will outway the bad.

Bit this is were our individuality reinforced by history will help people / countrys to stand out against obvious unfairness.


Agreed. The unification will not go without problems. If it does something strange is happening (think shadow government).

But in the end I also believe that the good shall prevail.

And further into the future the world will either be destroyed or united.
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Reply #133 on: July 28, 2002, 11:46:16 am
Its has been my experience that evil prevails, unless Good is very, very clever and careful.
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #134 on: July 28, 2002, 11:57:12 am
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Its has been my experience that evil prevails, unless Good is very, very clever and careful.


What kind of exp. is that?
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Offline delta_7890

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Reply #135 on: July 28, 2002, 12:01:19 pm
Good and Evil are both easy and difficult to place labels on.  It's a matter of opinion.
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #136 on: July 28, 2002, 12:02:25 pm
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Good and Evil are both easy and difficult to place labels on.  It's a matter of opinion.


Good and evil are relative...
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Offline CP5670

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Reply #137 on: July 28, 2002, 12:12:05 pm
It basically boils down to a compromise: Britain can either join in the EU, in which they will be only a part of a much larger whole and enjoy economic prosperity, or stay out of the EU, retaining their "individuality" and becoming a second-rate economy over time. (compared to the rest of Europe) Personally, if I was in this situation, I would go for the former without a moment of hesitation. The EU may not be as closely tied together as the US due to the nations' history, but this is their only chance of competing with the US or they will fall behind.

And good and evil do not exist in the absolute; heck, Hitler was good, according to himself. :D
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