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Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Sounds highly unlikely, and is probably mostly wishful thinking, but...

https://cosmicbook.news/disney-resetting-star-wars-erasing-last-jedi

Here's hoping that if this is true, they go ahead with what they should have done in the first place and make Ep 7-9 from the Thrawn Trilogy.

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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Why do we need a thread for a bull**** rumor circulated by a third rate website from a third-rate chud of a youtuber? We get it, you don't like The Last Jedi. Move on.
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Good Lord. Way to strike up the conversation, there.
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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Ok, well I'll start then.

I saw that article. Thought the same thing about the website that posted it. On the other hand, the actual source of the information has been credible before.. so who knows.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me that Disney is doing something to try and save their $4 billion purchase. Let's remember that when they bought the franchise they boasted at least one Star Wars movie every year until the end of time. And it was a boast. They were very proud of themselves. Cut to now and the trend-line for box office profits is downward and the fanbase is split. In addition it's common knowledge (and backed up by data) that the toys are not selling and haven't been for years. The new toys for the new characters did nothing to help that trend line either.

The claims of the article that they are going to use a sci-fi thing introduced in a tv show that lay-audiences haven't seen seems a little far-fetched... I honestly think it's more likely they'll quietly displace Kennedy and just move on, possibly to Star Wars being a Disney+ tv show affair for a while. I know there's supposedly other films in the works, but everything Star Wars has been in limbo ever since the TLJ drama and ROS did nothing to patch that all back together. The film is one measure shy of being a sci-fi laughing stock either because it's so absurd or because of what it does to TLJ.
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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Well... companies will milk SW until it's dead. Double ****ing dead.

Maybe Disney won't be the last owner of the franchise anyway. Perhabs some Chinese company could buy it; and the OT gets rebooted with the rebel army being actual communists fighting the evil empire, Luke does his training by reading a red book with the spirit of their surpreme leader giving everyone who believes in him superpowers.

 
Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
I saw that article. Thought the same thing about the website that posted it. On the other hand, the actual source of the information has been credible before.. so who knows.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me that Disney is doing something to try and save their $4 billion purchase.

Big same. It would make a lot of sense to just... pretend the sequel trilogy didn't happen. Or maybe did, or would, or could or whatever, but that it's completely irrelevant to whatever stories they want to tell.

Giving new movies to somebody actually creative and competent, who could actually tell a good, consistent, and maybe even fresh story would really relight my interest in the things. And if they have any really cool spaceship designs, I could be persuaded to part with some merch money.

 

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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Star Wars doesn't have a single "broken keel" that explains why it might have peaked in relevance and appeal; and the people in charge seems to know so too, overwise they wouldn't be going ahead with different directions across all the media they are still making.

Well... companies will milk SW until it's dead. Double ****ing dead.

Uhm, that is the genesis of much of Star Wars' pop-cultural relevance -- let's not forget that merchandising is one of the foundational aspects of the Star Wars-brand, going all the way back to the Kenner toys. The oversaturation that came with the prequels might have tuned people against it, but it was not a new thing then.
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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
That article is one of the most profoundly stupid ass-pull theories I've ever read.

Oh and the comments are full of misogynist incels *****ing about **** they don't understand, so as always, don't even touch them.

 
Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Nobody actually likes Star Wars do they

 

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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Nobody actually likes Star Wars do they

this is news?
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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
I think that the past two decades' worth of Star Wars has shown once and for all that fandoms have no ****ing idea what they actually want.

 

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Nobody actually likes Star Wars do they

I like slave leia.

 

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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
hmm

interesting article, that

hits every checkbox on the "bad movie opinions for beginners" tree; including: "Brie Larson is bad and I don't like her", "Kathleen Kennedy is bad and I don't like her", "Here's some unsubstantiated bull**** I think is a connection between this movie and this semi-obscure tie-in" and "They're definitely going to use that to make all my dreams come true".

And the source for all that? A person going by the handle "Doomcock Overlord", whose greatest scoop and claim to having inside info is..... something he cribbed off of a Star Wars leaks subreddit.

Meanwhile, out in the real world, the films alone were quite a bit more profitable under Disney than they were under Lucas; Sure, the tie-in market kinda burned down, but there's quite a few external factors that play into that.

It's quite clear that the grand "one Star Wars movie per year" plan completely failed to take off; I think mjn is right in assuming that they're going to make new Star Wars stuff in the form of Disney+ series for a while until everyone has calmed down a bit.

I think that the past two decades' worth of Star Wars has shown once and for all that fandoms have no ****ing idea what they actually want.

Also this.
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The reason why I think this might be plausible is—as some of you have pointed out—because of the merchandise. Truly good Star Wars content (The Mandalorian; The Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels) seems to be far more popular with tie-in (note: not to be confused with the TIE/IN) merch than any sequel-related content has. Not to mention the general reception of those shows vs the movies.

Disney isn't stupid; they won't keep beating a dead horse. It's just that in the film industry, the cycle of action-reaction-re-reaction takes many years to complete. Movies are in production for years (writing, casting, filming, editing, etc) before the public sees anything more than a trailer. If they've passed a certain point in the production of a movie, it may not make any sense to cancel it even if they predict it will be badly received—it's all about ROI.

It may not seem like they're reacting to the fans' likes and dislikes, but give it time.
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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
It may not seem like they're reacting to the fans' likes and dislikes, but give it time.

 :rolleyes:

Enjoy your perfectly bland, inoffensive Star Wars-branded sludge, I guess? Cos that's the end result of listening to a fanbase as riddled with morons as the Star Wars one is.
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As far as I'm concerned any fandom that thinks RoS is a better film than TLJ (flawed as it is) or that the plot hooks in TFA were ever going to pan out into anything worth watching can keep the entire thing. The problem with the Star Wars films is that they haven't got any idea what to do with them beyond that they should have them and that they should make money.

If they want to do something interesting with the franchise (like The Mandalorian for instance) then I'll watch it. But if they're going to listen to the fans, I'm certainly never going to pay money to watch the kind of rubbish that will produce. And if you disagree with me, imagine what a load of ****e The Mandalorian would have been if the fans had a chance. "Well, it has to be about Boba Fett!" "And it has to have characters from the films in it!"
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Or Clone Wars, for that matter. Everybody and their goddamn mother loves Ahsoka Tano now and I remember how much absolute screaming there was about the character when the pilot movie hit theaters. Now every time she shows up all the fans cheer (I mean, so do I, she's great) but if you said that back in 2008 you'd have gotten pilloried by the fandom.
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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Have been following this, we can hope it turns out to be true, but it seems very difficult... Not impossible of course: lots of franchises have decanonised movies in various ways, either with time travel (X Men, Terminator, Star Trek) or by just choosing to ignore the films they don't like (Superman, I believe RoboCop and Cloverfield are getting this treatment as well). So it wouldn't be unprecedented. But harder to do so soon, and in such a high profile way.

I think the vastly more likely outcome is that they just sort of ignore the entire sequel era for the foreseeable future, focus on the imperial era, the distant past or the immediate aftermath of Endor. That's already happening: think about the projects they've announced or released lately: the Disney+ series are Cassian, Obi Wan and Mandalorian, none of which will touch the sequel era proper. Jedi Fallen Order was Imperial era, Squadrons is going to be imperial era, this High Republic thing is Republic era. Resistance was cancelled, all the upcoming comics and all but one of the upcoming books are non-sequel except the RoS adaptation and an anthology or two of released material. And this is all, what, less than six months after the last movie came out? They're pretty clearly not pushing them very hard at the absolute least.

So, I guess I live in hope but expect little.
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Re: Disney-era Star Wars might get reset?
Rather then turning this into another whole discussion wrt the sequels (which, for starters, I can't participate in since I haven't seen Rise of Skywalker yet oops*), the whole notion of them just making the sequels irrellevant when these sequels totally succeeded in the goal of making them money and in fact continue to make money for them through various ways is a bit dumb. I'm not surprised that it blew up the way it did, becuase Star Wars fans don't actually like Star Wars they just like being salty nerds.

Mandalorian is pretty good though. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney pivoted more to making stuff like that.



* Also Rae in TFA is hardly as capable as Luke all her ship abilities are explained by her working for an used starship dealer who has owned the millenium falcon for the past 20 years and all she does in the second part of the film is to get captured and then succesfully managing to run away with the help of Finn, Han and Chewie rather then Luke who one-shots the most powerful battle station ever constructed becuase he just happens to learn space magic at the right time CHANGE MY MIND

 

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"we can hope", he says.

All you can reasonably hope for at this point is your regular serving of bland extruded Star Wars product, now that Disney seems convinced that using Star Wars to tell actual stories is a bad idea.
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