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Offline Nyctaeus

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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
Could this be an optional feature in the media VPs? Then people who don't like them can simply opt out by not checking the box? Or would this cause problems?
It would require alternate mission set, so it's very troublesome solution.
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
To make use of them in the MVP missions yes, apart from that not.

 
Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
Little note - the AO and Normal maps are identical to the regular versions in the MVPs, so if you're using FRED-based texture replacement (and probably table based; not sure) where you replace, say "AeolusUV-reflect" with "NTFAeMain-Reflect" you only need to include the base map, reflect and glow maps while keeping the other maps as they are. This will keep modpack sizes over 250 MBs smaller.

 

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Going to sound dumb, but if I were to download this, where would I need to put it and would I need to do anything else with it over than pasting the file/s in the right place/s?
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
There are many ways.

You can use texture-replacement in FRED to replace maps of Orions, Fenrises etc. with those. Or you can make new tables to use POFs included, and add them as separete ship instances to a mod. Also others, mentioned in the OP
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
Could this be an optional feature in the media VPs? Then people who don't like them can simply opt out by not checking the box? Or would this cause problems?
It would require alternate mission set, so it's very troublesome solution.
Is it really that troublesome? I think I could probably whip up that mission set given an hour or two just copy and pasting stuff in notepad, if it's just retail missions with texture replace slotted in assuming having both this pack and the mediavps.
I'm half tempted to actually just try this one day, if I'm bored enough. :P

Kinda want a Levi skin first though, it'd be odd having that be un-skinned when everything else the NTF uses would be.
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
Not sure if troublesome, but certainly require some effort. I guess notepad would come in handy at editing missions. Even lazier solution is table-based texture replacement.

Dunno. I just prepared reskins. I think there are individuals here who can figure out better ways to use them then I can.
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
For those that want it here is the main FreeSpace campaign with NTF reskins. Just drop the contents and the NTF pack into the mediavps data folder.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FfLX8uvhJIsAJ5h5kf5N7URWcoTBv2jl/view?usp=sharing
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Not all heroes wear capes.

This bongs on knossos/fs blue.

 

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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
I said it before, but repetita iuvant, just in case: these skins truly deserve to be added to the next MVPs package.  :nod:
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
AFAIK the MVPs have a adapted a policy of "no reskins", for example when FSPort assets were integrated the Reskins were intentionally excluded (with the HOL Typhon maps actually being removed later on), also a number of Elysium-variants weren't put in.

 

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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
A policy which I wholly disagree with. Faction paint jobs are, IMO, a logical extension of squadron insignia.
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
I don't think it's actually anykind of pre-discussed and established policy. Actually nobody from FSU expressed anykind of open resistance. Before my reskins emerged, nobody ever proposed anything like that for real. HoL reskins for Operation Templar could be a thing, but lets say it straightforward: FSU doesn't care about Templar at all.

Also, note that FSU allowed custom reskins to happen in form of Leviathan and Lilith thus allowing certain dimorphism to exist, and actually completely altering key visuals of mentioned ships. Also, in the past FSU recolored some Shivan ships to be more homogeneous and consistent as a species.

In fact, I stated that we should keep all reskins away as an "objective standpoint of FSU team member", as I feel obliged to keep some of my personal preferences away, for the sake of goal of FSU.

...but the very existence of this pack confirms, that personally I also disagree with such policy :} .

Huh, let's create a poll in FSU board or something. Very many voices favours the integration of this reskin pack into FSU, as well as making more.
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Making a poll sounds good to me :)

 

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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
On which board did you post that?

 

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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
Yah,  can't see it 😭😭

 

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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
On which board did you post that?

FSU internal. Maybe I should move it? :|
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Re: [RELEASE] NTF Reskin Pack
Well I thought it was supposed to be that way, but I dunno.