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Offline Polpolion

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
There were never inter-galaxy jump drives in Freespace, though.

 

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Inter-system drives were installed in all craft early on in FS1... previously they had only been able to use them in large ships.

 

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
There were never inter-galaxy jump drives in Freespace, though.

 Then how do you explain the fact that a destroyer is FS2 is able to travel from Laramis to Polaris given that it hasn't been destroyed or damaged?

 

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
There were never inter-galaxy jump drives in Freespace, though.

 Then how do you explain the fact that a destroyer is FS2 is able to travel from Laramis to Polaris given that it hasn't been destroyed or damaged?
Maybe you've mixed some terms up. No one has made any intergalactic jumps in FS. Just inter-system. If you think for a moment just how huge galaxies are, you will most likely come to the conclusion that no one is making any intergalactic jumps any time soon.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Inter-system drives were installed in all craft early on in FS1... previously they had only been able to use them in large ships.

If you mean they can be installed on any class that's one thing but they most certainly were not installed on all fighters. The Shivans seem to have intersystem jump drives on all their fighters but the Terrans and Vasudans most definitely do not.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Inter-system drives were installed in all craft early on in FS1... previously they had only been able to use them in large ships.

If you mean they can be installed on any class that's one thing but they most certainly were not installed on all fighters. The Shivans seem to have intersystem jump drives on all their fighters but the Terrans and Vasudans most definitely do not.
It was mentioned in one of the FS1 command briefings that, after monitoring Shivan fighters long enough, scientists had come up with a way to make fighters carry inter-system jump drives and that they were in the process of installing them to all fighters. But in FS2, it was stated that inter-system jump drives for fighters are ****ing expensive and are reserved for special occasions only.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Of course you could claim that it isn't discrepancy between the two and that the reason the GTA could afford it was that they had a lot more cash than the GTVA does. :D
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Quite so. After all, back then Sol was in the scene, and we all know that it seemed to be the climax of the Terran might. So, once Sol was severed from the other systems, the GTVA couldn't afford 'dem drives. They couldn't even manufacture Prometheus cannons. At least not the original model.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Inter-system drives were installed in all craft early on in FS1... previously they had only been able to use them in large ships.

If you mean they can be installed on any class that's one thing but they most certainly were not installed on all fighters. The Shivans seem to have intersystem jump drives on all their fighters but the Terrans and Vasudans most definitely do not.
It was mentioned in one of the FS1 command briefings that, after monitoring Shivan fighters long enough, scientists had come up with a way to make fighters carry inter-system jump drives and that they were in the process of installing them to all fighters. But in FS2, it was stated that inter-system jump drives for fighters are ****ing expensive and are reserved for special occasions only.

This is strange. In the mission where the Colossus get's destroyed, you have to reach the Node and (quite obviously) make a intersystem jump. But how where they supposed to know the Sun's going supernova?
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Inter-system drives were installed in all craft early on in FS1... previously they had only been able to use them in large ships.

If you mean they can be installed on any class that's one thing but they most certainly were not installed on all fighters. The Shivans seem to have intersystem jump drives on all their fighters but the Terrans and Vasudans most definitely do not.
It was mentioned in one of the FS1 command briefings that, after monitoring Shivan fighters long enough, scientists had come up with a way to make fighters carry inter-system jump drives and that they were in the process of installing them to all fighters. But in FS2, it was stated that inter-system jump drives for fighters are ****ing expensive and are reserved for special occasions only.

This is strange. In the mission where the Colossus get's destroyed, you have to reach the Node and (quite obviously) make a intersystem jump. But how where they supposed to know the Sun's going supernova?
Correction: In the "Colossus Goes Boom" mission, you just have to jump out. In Apocalypse (the final mission), you must reach the node. Which is weird. But then again, you are leading an elite squadron, so maybe your ship and the rest of the squadron are equipped with inter-system drives. I don't know, I'm just guessing.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Oh yeah right, I've confused that. Well, probably your Erinyes is expensive (and is probably f**king expenisve) and you're expensive too, which equals to supah expensive and the fighters flown by 1337-Squads get intersystem drives anyway. That's reasonable.

/EDIT: Played it again. The Apocalypse Cutscene is just ridicoulous. How are these Corv's supposed to survive a blast from a multiple 100'000'000 °C Supernova Shockwave? :rolleyes:
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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
There were never inter-galaxy jump drives in Freespace, though.

Maybe you've mixed some terms up. No one has made any intergalactic jumps in FS. Just inter-system. If you think for a moment just how huge galaxies are, you will most likely come to the conclusion that no one is making any intergalactic jumps any time soon.

 Alright, sorry my mistake = I mixed the terms up . . .

 

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
If you mean they can be installed on any class that's one thing but they most certainly were not installed on all fighters. The Shivans seem to have intersystem jump drives on all their fighters but the Terrans and Vasudans most definitely do not.

I'm pretty sure if you check there is an FS1 CB that says they were beginning the procedure for installing these on all fighters.  I think.

EDIT: Sorry... got stuck on pg 9... um:

Of course you could claim that it isn't discrepancy between the two and that the reason the GTA could afford it was that they had a lot more cash than the GTVA does. :D

OK, so we have a Prometheus S situation.

 

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Inter-system drives were installed in all craft early on in FS1... previously they had only been able to use them in large ships.

If you mean they can be installed on any class that's one thing but they most certainly were not installed on all fighters. The Shivans seem to have intersystem jump drives on all their fighters but the Terrans and Vasudans most definitely do not.
It was mentioned in one of the FS1 command briefings that, after monitoring Shivan fighters long enough, scientists had come up with a way to make fighters carry inter-system jump drives and that they were in the process of installing them to all fighters. But in FS2, it was stated that inter-system jump drives for fighters are ****ing expensive and are reserved for special occasions only.

This is strange. In the mission where the Colossus get's destroyed, you have to reach the Node and (quite obviously) make a intersystem jump. But how where they supposed to know the Sun's going supernova?

All destroyers had already left the system, the node was about to be collapsed.  The plan was to evacuate the system of all transports, then have all fighters jump to Vega.  The Supernova didn't actually affect GTVA plans, apart from speeding them up a bit.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
All destroyers had already left the system, the node was about to be collapsed.  The plan was to evacuate the system of all transports, then have all fighters jump to Vega.  The Supernova didn't actually affect GTVA plans, apart from speeding them up a bit.
... Apart from maybe some unexpected casualties. The shockwave did wipe out at least a corvette and most likely some of those transports and such, which the GTVA was hoping of getting out with minimal casualties.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
EDIT: Played it again. The Apocalypse Cutscene is just ridicoulous. How are these Corv's supposed to survive a blast from a multiple 100'000'000 °C Supernova Shockwave? :rolleyes:

they don't.. :lol:
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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
EDIT: Played it again. The Apocalypse Cutscene is just ridicoulous. How are these Corv's supposed to survive a blast from a multiple 100'000'000 °C Supernova Shockwave? :rolleyes:

they don't.. :lol:
I assume Stones meant that the corvettes stay pretty much intact after the shockwave. One would assume that a supernova would vaporize a spaceship of that size. But no. They 'survive'.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Well, not the second blast, but already multiple click's away the 1st blast would have molten these corvettes away.

Ah yes, TrashMan exactly got my point.
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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
This is strange. In the mission where the Colossus get's destroyed, you have to reach the Node and (quite obviously) make a intersystem jump. But how where they supposed to know the Sun's going supernova?

They don't. However it's also obvious that although you were launched from the Aquitane it has returned to EP before you finish the mission with the Bastion (Petrach survives!).

From that you can infer that all along the plan was for Alpha wing to remain behind and guard ships until moments before the node was sealed. And if that was the plan then unless it was a suicide mission they'd have given him a ship with intersystem drives.
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Re: How would the Terrans/Vasudans on Earth react to the GTVA - Knossos
Well, not the second blast, but already multiple click's away the 1st blast would have molten these corvettes away.

Ah yes, TrashMan exactly got my point.

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This appears to be the formula behind a lot of stuff in games.
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