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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: S-99 on February 28, 2009, 07:20:47 am
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
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The only advice I can give you on this subject is not to listen to anyone who posts below me.
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No, nothing wrong with it at all. I personally find it far more palitable than the boy being 36 and the girl being 24, that would just be so not right.....
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so long as you are not stalking her.
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
what are you crazy she's old enough to be your mother given that your mother was 12 when she had you.
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
what are you crazy she's old enough to be your mother given that your mother was 12 when she had you.
:wtf:
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Yeah, srsly. Get this: Whatever 2 (or more) consenting adults decide to do with their private life is their, and ONLY their problem. So, go for it, S-99! Good luck from this random internet person!
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make sure she looks good before you insert your sausage in her :D
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
It's completely up to you. And anyone who says age difference relationships are automatically wrong really needs to shut up.
The only warning I would give is that you have to consider kids in such a relationship a lot earlier than you might have to otherwise. A 36 year old woman who wants kids might not be willing to wait 4-5 years for you so make sure you're both of the same mind if this is a serious thing. Similarly there may be other issues if she wants to settle down and you don't. Beyond that, have fun. :)
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And anyone who says age difference relationships are automatically wrong really needs to shut up.
Age difference relationships are automatically wrong.
:nervous:
Don't ban me please...
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Personally I follow xkcd's dating pool formula: don't date anyone under ((age/2) + 7). But this really is a private issue and you won't actually gain much by discussing it with people from the Internet.
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Personally I follow xkcd's dating pool formula: don't date anyone under ((age/2) + 7). But this really is a private issue and you won't actually gain much by discussing it with people from the Internet.
That's kinda true, you'll just get a multi-faceted opinion :lol:
But it's just up to you reallyYeah, srsly. Get this: Whatever 2 (or more) consenting adults decide to do with their private life is their, and ONLY their problem.
QFT
Anyone who thinks they can tell you what to do on this issue is a ****faced toy **** (apologies for 'graffiti/graffer dawwwg' slang.)
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Is it wrong? No. It's kinda weird, but you know that or you wouldn't have felt it neccesary to make this thread. And before anyone gets indignant, it is weird. It goes against the genetic imperative - he's chosen a mate with a significantly decreased reproductive potential (as compared with what he could get if he pursued women nearer his own age, or younger). It's why there'll always be a market for cosmetics - women want to look young because young is attractive at a genetic level. Of course, this doesn't apply the same in reverse, which is why there's much less social "stigma" (too strong a word really, but I can't think of a better one ATM) on an older man/younger woman pairing.
So, people are going to treat you two differently. Look at you funny. Your parents are going to be weirded out (same reasons as above, once removed). If you plan for this to be long term, there are other issues to consider, fertility being the big one, but there are other things too - different life goals will probably come into play. The things I've done and things I have planned for my twenties are very different from what I expect I'll want in my thirties. Things like this need to be considered if you're thinking long term. They don't apply if all you're expecting is a fling of course.
So, yeah. It's weird, not wrong. If you think you can get past that and deal with the associated problems then go for it. If not, don't.
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older women are fun. and frankly i kinda perfer them over say 19 year olds. furthermore my generation of women are all whores.
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
It's more than likely something I wouldn't engage in due to many of the reasons that Black Wolfe stated.
A 10+ year gap in age seems a bit much, especially if this were to mature into something more than simple attraction.
Hell, I'm only 25, and my datable "range" is about three-four year buffer in each direction. Now, granted, that's just me. I wouldn't date an 18-20 year old, simply because I consider them to be at the beginning of their life, and it's better to have them explore a little and establish who they are and what they want. I'm outside of that category, and thus want to deal with people that are closer to my own. Someone that's beyond that three-four year buffer most likely has different priorities in life that don't mesh with mine, thus preventing a good pairing. I agree, that there are exceptions to the rule, but generally, that's one of my criteria points that get evaluated.
Anyhow, that's a partial take on what I base my decisions off of.
I hope this is of some value to you.
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
By law? No.
By anyone elses opinion? You shouldn't care.
The only ones left to answer this are you and her.
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36 is a lot better than 15...
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24 and 36 is not too bad.
things to consider:
1) baggage - does she have kids? how much 'mileage' does she have?
2) physical age difference. she's 12 years older than you. means in a few years she's going to start going through menopause. are you going to be ready for that? are you willing to go through that?
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She'll be bored with him before that happens ;)
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No, nothing wrong with it at all. I personally find it far more palitable than the boy being 36 and the girl being 24, that would just be so not right.....
damn why , if it works between them it works , age is just a number but personalities and respect and love work between ppl of different ages
well theres my opinion on that and
s99 just go for it if it works its great if it doesnt just put it down to experience
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I'm being cautious about the whole thing. It's not going to be a long term thing either. I am treading lightly on the whole situation. The age difference doesn't make me uncomfortable, but no ones been acting awkward toward us. She really likes being around me as much as i like being around her. My friends are very happy for us, and also tell me to tap it (this line of thinking for "tapping" it is not tasteful, especially to say).
She does have kids and i'm not going to have anything to do with them. I'm also going to keep sex from happening too. I just don't really desire sex usually, and in this situation i have the feeling that it would really complicate things. Of course a lot of this situation is opinion based. Of course i'm not stalking her either. She's also not old enough to be my mom. My mom is like almost 60.
Yeah we kiss and hold hands. She really wants to go on a date with me which would be fun. Her mentality in life is that she thinks and acts like someone who's 28. I know y she likes younger guys, considering some of the people her age i've seen hitting on her were like toothless and stuff. After that she really does think and act about like someone in their mid 20's. I know when i'm her age i'm not going to be toothless or missing any hair, so idk what's with these ugly dudes who try to get with her (she's very pretty).
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also you live in alaska, i know what thats like, you really got to take any pusseh that comes along.
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I fully support it. Although, as someone who has a major thing for older women, of course I do.
Until I read this:
I'm also going to keep sex from happening too. I just don't really desire sex usually, and in this situation i have the feeling that it would really complicate things.
Nutso. :wtf:
But on further reflection, this actually sounds like a very, very cute relationship. Honestly, I abhor the stigma on older women and younger guys. Black Wolf is dead on with the genetic imperative aspect, but I still see it as a petty double standard. When you get right down to it: Life is short, get off as much as possible. If you find someone you like, grab on with both hands and don't let go.
But, brother, don't rule out the sex. Please? Do it for me, your old friend Mef.
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I just don't really desire sex usually....
Turn in your man card.
Kidding, it's a good thing you're keeping a level head about it.
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I shouldn't have presented it so broadly. More accurately, i'm avoiding getting it on with her because i fear that it wouldn't complicate things. If i find out that it doesn't, then i'll be having a ****ing good time.
I also don't want to hurt her in anyway. One reason for the treading lightly in the relationship. Quite frankly idk right now if this should continue or get nipped in the ass and be close friends.
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I shouldn't have presented it so broadly. More accurately, i'm avoiding getting it on with her because i fear that it wouldn't complicate things. If i find out that it doesn't, then i'll be having a ****ing good time.
I also don't want to hurt her in anyway. One reason for the treading lightly in the relationship. Quite frankly idk right now if this should continue or get nipped in the ass and be close friends.
Make the decision soon. I can tell you from experience if you don't find out soon it will just make things worse in the end even if you do end up just friends later on.
Of course you think I would have learned that the first time not 3rd.
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Tonight me and her are going to the bar :)
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This thread is missing the finest and yet most commonly-advised pearls of wisdom on the internet re: relationships.
Stick it in her pooper.
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This thread is missing the finest and yet most commonly-advised pearls of wisdom on the internet re: relationships.
Stick it in her pooper.
Winner.
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Idk how much i'd actually want to do that you know. Sure i want to do a chick anal. But, there's not many guarantees. The main insidious thought being "how clean is her pooper?" There's gotta be preparation on her part for sure :lol:
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Stick it in her pooper.
Only do this if you are willing to allow her to return the favor with something.
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Stick it in her pooper.
Only do this if you are willing to allow her to return the favor with something.
...Ouch
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So far i'll take vagina any day. Tonight went well. It went very good, i'd bring her over to my place, but no, she drinks a lot more beer than i do. I helped her catch a cab with a friend and she was happy that she got to see me tonight.
Alternately had she not been drinking i would have brought her over here. She's really sweet. Then again she was a little angry with me when i told her out of which nostril of her nose that she needed to wipe since there was an escapee booger. Idk how to explain any other way, so i was really blunt. That's just how i am around women. She got over it pretty fast, before she got over it i was left dumbfounded. I really like women who don't mind my bluntness. They just seem to be the ones of any age who know that that's just how i am. It's one thing i try to control a lot with effectiveness, except i'm around women that i like. Before i controlled my bluntness it lead to three other past relationships in which i humiliated the hell out of the girl i was breaking up with.
That was when i learned to control bluntness. I'll bring her over to my place when no alcohol has been consumed. Alcohol and sex don't mix. This leads further to people who are drunk hanging out with people who are sober also doesn't mix. I'll need to schedule some time when i can see a movie with her. Most of my time is dominated with homework. And yes my homework takes first place no matter what.
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my personal statistics say that older women are more likely the let you stick in in her pooper.
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if only cause they feel guilt cause their vagoo is all flappity and loose
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yea probibly
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my personal statistics say that older women are more likely the let you stick in in her pooper.
:eek2:
if only cause they feel guilt cause their vagoo is all flappity and loose
:eek2:
:nervous:
you two would make a nice couple
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The scars... they don't go away... oh, dear lord, WHY did i keep reading...
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you two would make a nice couple
So now iamzack's cheating on Turambar? I just can't wait for the next episode!
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you two would make a nice couple
So now iamzack's cheating on Turambar? I just can't wait for the next episode!
yip shes getting nuked up the pooper
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So now iamzack's cheating on Turambar? I just can't wait for the next episode!
So just saying someone act like a couple means they're having sex?
/me remembers that someone told him last week that they thought Snail and Mobius act like an old married couple. :wakka:
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/me remembers that someone told him last week that they thought Snail and Mobius act like an old married couple. :wakka:
:hopping:
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Now i'm cheered up...
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Old married couples have sex? In that case, snail would be like "now that sure is one hell of a train tu...."
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Always wonder what my mom and dad did when i'm out... (Both are in mid 40s this year)
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
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Always wonder what my mom and dad did when i'm out... (Both are in mid 40s this year)
You have a sick mind. :nod:
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See why MILF porn is so popular? :p
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
I propose a series of in-depth tests to stimulate growth in this area. With consistent and repeated exploration, we'll soon find the real thrust of the issue. Together, we can stand erect in the knowledge that we've come to an understanding of such a mind-blowing field. It won't be easy, the research will be sweaty, tiring work. We'll need to maintain good communication, intercourse if you will, between all parties in this study if it is going to reach its climax.
Naturally, i'll spearhead the research myself.
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So now iamzack's cheating on Turambar? I just can't wait for the next episode!
This is news to you?
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
Self-reported statistics, largely.
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
Self-reported statistics, largely.
Sounds like denial.
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
Self-reported statistics, largely.
Sounds like denial.
So does your profile message :P
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
Self-reported statistics, largely.
Sounds like denial.
So does your profile message :P
You got me.
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
Self-reported statistics, largely.
Sounds like denial.
So does your profile message :P
You got me.
orly
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*breaks the chain*
We are NOT having another Milk thread dammit! :p
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Is there any reason S-99's title isn't "Cougar Bait" yet? :p
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The scars... they don't go away... oh, dear lord, WHY did i keep reading...
Seconded. I need some therapy.
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Statistically, sex actually tends to improve with age (to a point.)
How would you quantify such a thing?
I propose a series of in-depth tests to stimulate growth in this area. With consistent and repeated exploration, we'll soon find the real thrust of the issue. Together, we can stand erect in the knowledge that we've come to an understanding of such a mind-blowing field. It won't be easy, the research will be sweaty, tiring work. We'll need to maintain good communication, intercourse if you will, between all parties in this study if it is going to reach its climax.
Naturally, i'll spearhead the research myself.
:eek2: :lol:
Is there any reason S-99's title isn't "Cougar Bait" yet? :p
Cougar Prey FTW
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I propose a series of in-depth tests to stimulate growth in this area. With consistent and repeated exploration, we'll soon find the real thrust of the issue. Together, we can stand erect in the knowledge that we've come to an understanding of such a mind-blowing field. It won't be easy, the research will be sweaty, tiring work. We'll need to maintain good communication, intercourse if you will, between all parties in this study if it is going to reach its climax.
Naturally, i'll spearhead the research myself.
I don't get it.
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I propose a series of in-depth tests to stimulate growth in this area. With consistent and repeated exploration, we'll soon find the real thrust of the issue. Together, we can stand erect in the knowledge that we've come to an understanding of such a mind-blowing field. It won't be easy, the research will be sweaty, tiring work. We'll need to maintain good communication, intercourse if you will, between all parties in this study if it is going to reach its climax.
Naturally, i'll spearhead the research myself.
I don't get it.
.......Okay
Re-read with close attention to the words used
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I have to call her sometime. I really hate phone calls. It'll go good of course. She hates how blunt i can be. Should i need to cut off the relationship, i know which tactic to use.
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Cougar Prey FTW
I find this statement hilarous for reasons sectorgame folks might understand.
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I propose a series of in-depth tests to stimulate growth in this area. With consistent and repeated exploration, we'll soon find the real thrust of the issue. Together, we can stand erect in the knowledge that we've come to an understanding of such a mind-blowing field. It won't be easy, the research will be sweaty, tiring work. We'll need to maintain good communication, intercourse if you will, between all parties in this study if it is going to reach its climax.
Naturally, i'll spearhead the research myself.
I don't get it.
nerd alert ^^
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I propose a series of in-depth tests to stimulate growth in this area. With consistent and repeated exploration, we'll soon find the real thrust of the issue. Together, we can stand erect in the knowledge that we've come to an understanding of such a mind-blowing field. It won't be easy, the research will be sweaty, tiring work. We'll need to maintain good communication, intercourse if you will, between all parties in this study if it is going to reach its climax.
Naturally, i'll spearhead the research myself.
I don't get it.
Am I the only one who sees sarcasm and not retardation?
Or am I just giving the benefit of the doubt where it's not viable?
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I propose a series of in-depth tests to stimulate growth in this area. With consistent and repeated exploration, we'll soon find the real thrust of the issue. Together, we can stand erect in the knowledge that we've come to an understanding of such a mind-blowing field. It won't be easy, the research will be sweaty, tiring work. We'll need to maintain good communication, intercourse if you will, between all parties in this study if it is going to reach its climax.
Naturally, i'll spearhead the research myself.
I don't get it.
.......Okay
Re-read with close attention to the words used
I'm pretty sure Ford here is being sarcastic.
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If you call yourself Fort Prefect you kind of have to be.
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Cougar Prey FTW
I find this statement hilarous for reasons sectorgame folks might understand.
Please, elaborate.
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If I really didn't get the joke, I wouldn't have deemed it a salient quote to begin with, since in order for me to realize there was something I wasn't getting, I would first have to be aware that a joke was being made. But, owing to the form of Mefustae's joke, there's no way I would have been aware that what he was saying was a joke unless I understood it.
So, smoke that for a while. It'll get you high.
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i like salmon
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I get it.
Occasionally, if I cook dinner....
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I get it.
Occasionally, if I cook dinner....
Not at the same time, I hope.
That'd just be unhygienic.
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It wouldn't really be that unhygenic, if you think about it.
But it wouldn't earn you any praise from health inspectors in running a restaurant.
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But the restaurant would be so popular by that stage it wouldn't matter.
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You could buy out the health inspectors.
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Or you could permit the health inspectors to take part in the dinner show.
Effective and fun.
Sexy health inspectors only, please.
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The moment rat turds appear and your screwed :lol:
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The moment rat turds appear and your screwed :lol:
/me doesn't want to know what kind of sex you're having for that to be an issue. :p
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ditto... :[
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I could wonder if a health inspector would find it naughty to eat at a nasty restaurant.
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Please, elaborate.
Alessia can purr well enough to pass for a cat. I will not elaborate further.
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Awww whyd you have to say that :(
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Awww whyd you have to say that :(
You could always read my back posts, I'm pretty sure I've spelled it out SOMEWHERE around here.
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Saggy tits man. Saggy tits.
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Saggy tits man. Saggy tits.
Duuuuude
Didn't need to hear that
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This is 36 were talking about, not later.
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
My sage-sense was activateds and i come bearing knowledge... (No i didn't even bother reading subsequent posts)
There's nought wrong with the age gap. Go for broke, take a chance . . . . my biggest age gap upwards was nine years. She was 23, i was tall for my age and lied, i said i was 23, she was a butlins redcoat but, and i say this consantly... With women; Confidence and bull**** can part even the rustiest and stubbonest of legs.
Do a little field recon first, there's always a window of oppertunity to play the "build trust>abuse trust" card. Be warned though for every woman the rate at which tust builds into the impenetrable FRIENDSHIP barrier is different. So once you start a passing conversation/regular greeting. (ie hi hows <insert past subject matter>)it's down to you to guage how quickly her familiarity with you is building. Ideally try and get infop on a regular function (if her and her mates go out for a few after work/college/whatever) this can be achieved by simple chit-chat. get there first with a paper pretending to "unwind" situate yourself by the door and keep a casual eye out. When your ladyt friend comes in. Raise a hello and see if you're asked to join.
This is where you can take the reigns and try different distances of social coimfort. As the night wears on, try the old casual hand on shoulder every time she laughs and laugh along. (ONLY IF RELEVANT, DON'T LOOK CRAZY / LIKE A PSYCHO!!)
From here on in you should be good to go.
Sorry for the impromptu ramble but i like this subject :D
DEKKER AWAY!!!!
<back soon-ish>
PS-Behave in my absence....or....<skull>ikillyou.<skull>
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my biggest age gap upwards was nine years. She was 23
14 WTF? :wtf:
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This is 36 were talking about, not later.
Okay fair enough....
my biggest age gap upwards was nine years. She was 23
14 WTF? :wtf:
JESUS CHRIST! WOAHHHH! DEKKKER!! WOOOOAHHHHH!
Your even putting my player antics to shame :shaking:
Damn...I has a lot to learn
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PS-Behave in my absence....or....<acmed>ikillyou.<acmed>
Fixed. :D
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Is this wrong? I'm 24 and the girl i like is 36.
My sage-sense was activateds and i come bearing knowledge... (No i didn't even bother reading subsequent posts)
There's nought wrong with the age gap. Go for broke, take a chance . . . . my biggest age gap upwards was nine years. She was 23, i was tall for my age and lied, i said i was 23, she was a butlins redcoat but, and i say this consantly... With women; Confidence and bull**** can part even the rustiest and stubbonest of legs.
Do a little field recon first, there's always a window of oppertunity to play the "build trust>abuse trust" card. Be warned though for every woman the rate at which tust builds into the impenetrable FRIENDSHIP barrier is different. So once you start a passing conversation/regular greeting. (ie hi hows <insert past subject matter>)it's down to you to guage how quickly her familiarity with you is building. Ideally try and get infop on a regular function (if her and her mates go out for a few after work/college/whatever) this can be achieved by simple chit-chat. get there first with a paper pretending to "unwind" situate yourself by the door and keep a casual eye out. When your ladyt friend comes in. Raise a hello and see if you're asked to join.
This is where you can take the reigns and try different distances of social coimfort. As the night wears on, try the old casual hand on shoulder every time she laughs and laugh along. (ONLY IF RELEVANT, DON'T LOOK CRAZY / LIKE A PSYCHO!!)
From here on in you should be good to go.
Sorry for the impromptu ramble but i like this subject :D
DEKKER AWAY!!!!
<back soon-ish>
PS-Behave in my absence....or....<skull>ikillyou.<skull>
Rather it was her who put the moves on me. I just went along with it because i liked it. Idk what prompted her for that night though. I was just picking up shots from the bar then she came out of no where and was trying to make out with me. I was holding 2 shots of tequila resisting her because it's not my fault if you make me spill your stuff.
It was like a week after this event that i warmed up to her. At this time she wasn't being an idiot in the middle of a very important transportation. We hold hands, kiss, i hold her close. Etc. She really wants to go on a date, and i actually have time to schedule one tomorrow.
It appears that she's always had a crush on me. But, i thought it funny how she decided to show me all of this. She chose her drunkest night to show that she likes me was wierd, maybe she didn't feel embarrassed at all that night (i got to be careful around her, she's not hard to embarrass). Thank god she hasn't gotten that drunk ever again. I probably would have kept avoiding her, because i don't touch base at all with super drunks. She's quite lenient.
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There's nought wrong with the age gap. Go for broke, take a chance . . . . my biggest age gap upwards was nine years. She was 23, i was tall for my age and lied, i said i was 23, she was a butlins redcoat but, and i say this consantly... With women; Confidence and bull**** can part even the rustiest and stubbonest of legs.
/me bows is muted respect.
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What? Don't be misogynistic, High Max. How do you know the women don't enjoy themselves as much, if not even more?
How very Victorian of you.
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Sounds to me like you are just trying go use the poor woman for sex and selfish pleasure, even at the expense of her. Good thing you are wrong since some women who are good and are strong minded will not part her legs for you no matter how much what you call "confidence" and stuff you have. That sounds so black and white. I have zero respect for anyone who intends to use people. Just reading that angered me.
Ha, good one. :lol:
Oh, wait, you're serious?
Let me laugh even harder. :wakka:
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Sounds to me like you are just trying go use the poor woman for sex and selfish pleasure, even at the expense of her. Good thing you are wrong since some women who are good and are strong minded will not part her legs for you no matter how much what you call "confidence" and stuff you have. That sounds so black and white. I have zero respect for anyone who intends to use people. Just reading that angered me.
Misplaced Empathy much?
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Woah High Max, uncalled for. I understand what you mean but I think you need a time out to rethink what you said. Seriously, no need for personal attacks. It's called flaming and it lowers the level of any discussion to damn near rock bottom.
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Gdmt, not another one. And just as the Racism thread starts to die off... :rolleyes:
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I tend to agree with High Max - but then, this thread was about a short term relationship, not about a committed one.
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Unfortunately it ended up being short term. I finally have some free time so i made plans with her for a date.
But, that's ok since i know what to do now since she was all over some other guy kissing him and stuff last night.
I no longer like an older woman :lol:
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Whoop!
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I still feel slightly guilty that I subscribed to this topic... :nervous:
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y?
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Tis better to have loved and lost....
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Ahhh There, There S-99
*Pulls beer from back pocket*
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*Pulls beer from back pocket*
It's illegal to have beer in your back pocket inn Kentucky. Or is it ice cream?
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*Pulls beer from back pocket*
It's illegal to have beer in your back pocket inn Kentucky. Or is it ice cream?
Well if the cops ask about the pills as well tell 'em they were for my "Back Pains"
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And what's the crowbar in the passenger seat for? And the latex thong on the rearview mirror? AND THAT PACK OF GUM?!?
wtf...
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The scars... they don't go away... oh, dear lord, WHY did i keep reading...
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i know im late to the thread here but older women are GOOD .. more likely to be comfortable with their sexuality given that our culture has this strong negative undercurrent discouraging women to be comfortable expressing their sexuality because they've had more time as adults to overcome those negative cultural undercurrents
that being said many never overcome them
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But, that's ok since i know what to do now since she was all over some other guy kissing him and stuff last night.
This is both the most hilarous and most effective answer to Max there possibly could have been.
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I think Max's comments were directed at Dekker...
But anyways, this topic has ended rather abruptly. Discuss results?
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She acts normal towards me and doesn't get my indifference towards her.
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Oh, I suspect she does, and just doesn't care :)
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She's a ***** for that.
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She's a ***** for that.
Okay, now you're being a jerk. Plenty of men do the same thing.
Why don't you just call her a player?
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Okay, now you're being a jerk. Plenty of men do the same thing.
Why don't you just call her a player?
I could call her a player. Just an unsmooth one. I'm not really a player at all. My decency tells me to break up first to keep a wtf moment from happening.
This wtf moment was one of those she was holding my hand calling me her man, then she's making out with some other guy :lol:
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Yes, though that post was a quote of a quote, so it may have confused some people, but I was replying to Dekker, not S-99.
Fortunately, that's not relevant to it still being both most hilarous and effective as an answer.
Your urge to see all relationships be deep, meaningful, long-lasting, faithful, etc. etc., is in its own way as dangerous an issue as everything you accuse (please note the word used there) Dekker et. al. of being. Moreso, really, since your willingness to inflict your opinions on the population at large means you have a much greater opportunity to do damage. At least the other way 'round requires some level of unwitting or uninformed consent.
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Saying and doing are 2 different things. At least I don't do certain things and doing is more damaging than saying and actions speak louder than words. I will not stoop down to the level of the majority because I do have self respect and standards and I will not act like a primitive animal. I don't care what you think about that. Also, I don't play with people's heart or treat them like objects for fun and sex. If you think about it, it is also childish to do that with one you don't love because it shows those people want the so-called fun without the responsibilty of a relationship and can't take it seriously, and not taking responsibility is childish. You also know you can get certain STDs just from kissing someone who has it (do research), and people who are bad deserve it, so I will feel no sympathy. Also, If one does that when it isn't a deep relationship, then one can't truly feel happy, but often times these days, people don't have much of an ability to feel guilt. The truth hurts. I'm just happy to know I'm not a part of that.
People DESERVE to get STDs because of loose morals? What...The....Hell? :wtf: Are you really, really sure that you want to make that statement? Also, contracting an STD via kissing is the least likely way of transmission, and only really applies to Herpes. Oh, and I am pretty sure that you can be a member of the majority without handing over your brain at the entrance, thank you very much. Just because you have a differing opinion, doesn't mean you are right.
You don't play with people's hearts? Good for you. But guess what, the majority of people, even in this Thread, doesn't either. Nothing kills fun more efficiently than a bad ending to a relationship, no matter if they are short- or long-term. Finally, true happiness? As Joss Whedon once said, true happiness is so damned rare, that most of us have to make do with perfectly ordinary happiness most of our lives. If you're waiting for true happiness, that's a long wait for a train that possibly doesn't even exist.
After all, your western train of thought actually encourages saying your opinion, so don't complain. I will say it.
As long as we all understand that once you make your opinions public they may be criticised by the public, that's okay.
Actually, what is truly hilarious is you and others seem to give into peer pressure and do whatever you are brain washed to think is cool. That shows lack of mental strength. That is how it is in the world. People often do what others do and can't resist, especially if the stuff others are doing is not good and is harmful to health among other things. But that also is not my problem.
Good Thing that this is only your opinion. I might take offense otherwise (Not that that would have any impact whatsoever. I'm just saying).
If a person is going to live a certain way, then they shouldn't complain when they are treated a certain way and not respected, because in life, you do and act a certain way, you often times have to take the baggage that comes with it and take the responsibility.
Ain't that the truth.
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Saying and doing are 2 different things. I will not stoop down to the level of the majority because I do have self respect and standards.
The meaningless refrain. I was hoping for something better than this.
Forget your self-respect and your standards; your right to both ended when you wandered in here and accused Dekker of being a deceitful bastard for no absolute reason. Cling to them if you wish, now that they have proved hollow and empty, hypocritical and spiteful.
Perhaps you've had poor experiences, as you've alluded to very vaguely. A pity, but that confers on you no right to judge, and especially no right to judge from incomplete information. I have too. I still, it seems, retain my ability to think things through before I ill-advisedly make accusations against other posters here. (On the other hand, this does not explicitly rule out non-romantic sex I guess. I regard more than one person as an intimately close friend. You could even argue that romance is totally irrevelant to the question, the way I see things.)
For in the end, when there are no secrets kept and no illusions otherwise maintained, is it truly so horrible that two people enjoy each other's company for awhile? Yes?
Why?
EDIT: Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, you had to go and edit it too. Down the rabbit hole we go then.
Saying and doing are 2 different things. At least I don't do certain things and doing is more damaging than saying and actions speak louder than words. I will not stoop down to the level of the majority because I do have self respect and standards and I will not act like a primitive animal. I don't care what you think about that.
We've been here, but oh well. There are few ways less convincing to prove you don't care then to state it. The "act like a primitive animal" is facetious and possibly outright stupid; will you stop eating too? That's about the same level of biological impulse.
Actions speak louder than words. But the pen is mightier than the sword. And I fear for your "wisdom" reaching someone who might be impressed by it. The power of thoughts is that they are communicable. Some of them come closer to the concept of a disease then others.
Also, I don't play with people's hearts or treat them like objects for fun and sex. If you think about it, it is also childish to do that with one you don't love because it shows those people want the so-called fun without the responsibilty of a relationship and can't take it seriously, and not taking responsibility is childish.
Who said anything about love? Non sequitor. Being an object isn't really so bad, either, but I'm not going to go there with you because I'm not sure you could handle the paradigm shift. The second sentence borders on circular logic, without quite being it, but it does manage to be erronous anyways at least.
You also know you can get certain STDs just from kissing someone who has it (do research), and people who are bad deserve it, so I will feel no sympathy.
What the freaking hell? Out of left field comes an outright threat to the audience, and it's a pretty bull**** one to boot! That you mixed this in here at all is deeply disturbing.
Also, if one does that when it isn't a deep relationship, then one can't truly feel happy and it won't last, but often times these days, people don't have much of an ability to feel guilt. The truth hurts. I'm just happy to know I'm not a part of that.
Poor fool. Happiness is what you make of it. Who are you to judge what is and is not "true happiness"? What gives you the mystical insight into such things that philosophy has sought and failed to find for ages? Likewise, human capacity for guilt is endless, but it is also usually specific. We must do something without meaning to to feel guilty about it.
After all, your western train of thought actually encourages saying your opinion, so don't complain. I will say it.
Perhaps.
But it also encourages thought before speech, the less to make yourself look like an idiot. And worse than that, I have the right to complain about your opinion by those very same rules that you have the right to express it.
Actually, what is truly hilarious is you and others seem to give into peer pressure and do whatever you are brain washed to think is cool. That shows lack of mental strength. That is how it is in the world. People often do what others do and can't resist, especially if the stuff others are doing is not good and is harmful to health among other things. But that also is not my problem.
I seem to have you beat silly in my original reply. Oh dear. Perhaps another whack with the clue-by-four?
"On some level I suppose I agree with you; sex is the ultimate expression of intimacy to me, and for me is therefore unthinkable unless I consider you intimately close already."
If a person is going to live a certain way, then they shouldn't complain when they are treated a certain way and not respected, because in life, if you do certain things and act a certain way, you often times have to take the baggage that comes with it and take the responsibility.
But the responsiblity you assign is flimsy, stupidly rationalized into a situation it does not belong to. The burden of proof is here, it is waiting; you never picked it up. You never made the case, never thought enough to see that you are painting many things with the same brush that carry far more shades of meaning then you seem to comprehend.
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The subject is interesting, but the way it's being discussed surely isn't.
I know of people who clarify everything before engaging each other and decide to stay together only for self esteem and/or fun. Other people decide to start a serious, faithful and respectful relationship(like me) with no regrets. If a man and a woman agree in staying together only to have sex let them to do so without interfering. We're not here to tell people how to pee, if you get what I mean.
The only, bad thing is having to deal with a person who doesn't share your point of view - that's a big problem.
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Because they are still treating each other as objects to a certain extent (no deep connection or commitment or responsibility) and care more about fun and pleasure. It also is not mature in more ways than one. It means they care more about your body and making themselves feel good than your personality, and that is not special and seems so selfish and I don't see how anyone could feel good about it afterwards, yet most people don't think as deeply about it as I do. Also, these people are more likely to cheat in a relationship and might have a cocktail of infections. Also, if I show my whole body or did sexual things with people I am not in love with, I wouldn't really have self respect letting anyone touch me in an intimate way like I'm some sort of toy or a piece of meat that the won't care enough about to stay with and be there for me in a serious relationship. I could never feel good about myself afterwards.
Yes. Us Fun-loving, promiscuous people are deeply flawed, and we should spend every minute flogging ourselves for our shortcomings. We are also really, really untrustworthy, and likely to infect all the pious people in the world with a variety of diseases, because we think it's fun.
Seriously, could you try and be less offensive? We get it, you don't like people who don't care about relationships the same way you do. I'll say it again, just in case you missed it: Whatever two (or more, Gasp!) consenting adults do with their life is their, AND ONLY THEIR business. I don't have the right to tell them that they are doing it wrong. Neither do you.
So, you don't understand people who aren't looking for depth in their relationships? OK, that's your problem. That doesn't make the people who understand and enjoy shallow stuff wrong.
Also, if a person has sex and does sexual things with people they don't love when they are old enough to know better and then do it with someone they are in love with, they would be treating that person pretty much the same way since they did sexual things and went all the way with both people they are not in love with and people they were in love with, and I couldn't feel special. I would be treated no better than the men the girl never loved and did that with and also would wonder if she is with me for love or just another fling. How could I be happy or feel special with someone like that? There wouldn't be much of a distinction. I feel sad thinking about that.
I pity you, I really do. What is wrong with having fun? What is it about us "shallow" people that gets under your skin that much?
Life isn't always about fun; it is about work and other things. Always thinking about fun and even taking it too far is the way a kid thinks.
Yes, I know I think very deeply about things and analyze, but that is how I am and it has saved me in certain cases and would be a good trait for a detective.
Life isn't always fun, agreed. But, ultimately, having fun is what makes life worth living, IMHO.
The subject is interesting, but the way it's being discussed surely isn't.
I know of people who clarify everything before engaging each other and decide to stay together only for self esteem and/or fun. Other people decide to start a serious, faithful and respectful relationship(like me) with no regrets. If a man and a woman agree in staying together only to have sex let them to do so without interfering. We're not here to tell people how to pee, if you get what I mean.
The only, bad thing is having to deal with a person who doesn't share your point of view - that's a big problem.
QFT.
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I don't have the right to tell them that they are doing it wrong. Neither do you.
Psh, I have the right to tell them they are wrong.
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kaz is kind of right, while a man is in his sexual prime in his 20s, women are usually in their prime in their 30s.
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@The E: There are many ways to have fun without doing things like that and taking it that far.
Why is this one fashion too much?
Actually, I pity you. Also, half of you aren't adults. You are in your teens but you talk about consenting adults. And I do understand people like that. They are the type who care too much about themselves even at the expense of others and obviously have been influenced by others quite heavily. Not my problem at all. I feel quite good in many ways.
How do you know this? Did you check? The E, according to his profile, is 28. I'm 24. Weather and Ford are 20. Nuke is 27. S-99 who started the thread is 24. Dekker is 26.
We are, evidently, older than you think. Even Mobius, who is 19, has demonstrated maturity beyond what is usually associated with his age (he's getting married to his...awkward as it is to put it this way..."mistake"). Do not foolishly dismiss us as young and intemperate. It is evidently a terrible mistake.
So spare us your pity. Save it for yourself.
Also, if you say it is their business, then maybe they shouldn't talk about it publicly and keep it their business (private). They shouldn't talk about the little things they do and then say it is their business. If it is their business, then maybe they shouldn't announce it. Talking about it so openly makes it other people's business. I really don't want to know about the crazy sexual things they do. Actually, talking so openly about private sexual things that they have done and even getting into details, especially with just anyone, isn't showing much respect for themselves or for the person they are talking about (talking in general, not about you in this paragraph).
On the contrary. Openly talking about sexuality is showing more respect for themselves then show them. They evidently believe they're worth talking about, you evidently do not.
However this whole paragraph is ridiculous, as nothing has been discussed in detail or anything remotely like detail. It's circular logic and straw man combined for one impressive fallacy of doom.
Man, why not close the topic so we can move on? Now I'm going to do some yard work and then continue fixing the grammar and spelling for the FOW COTS missions.
As Karajorma artfully illustrated in a recent thread, this is the coward's reply. Defend yourself, if you can, or surrender that your ideas are nonsensical, if you cannot.
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I'm not surprised that some would interpret freely talking about ones sexual being to be somehow disrespecting yourself but ...I'm surprised. People who know me know that I'm actually fairly conservative socially but I'm quite pleased to be able to have a mature conversation about sexuality. Its something thats been repressed and shunted away as something people only do behind closed doors and nobody should talk about it for far too long. I suspect some of the problems people have with it are because expectations are set so high on an individual level...if people sat around and talked about it maturely then it would be more of an "everyday" (for some people it is!) thing. Its still a stigmatized for some reason and yet its key to our health and well being as study after study has shown.
People do make bad choices but they do that with everything. Not being careful crossing the street can lead to dire consequences as can sex. People just need to get over it :)
As for S-99...I wouldn't necessarily let the age gap cause you concern but in this case it doesn't sound much like a healthy relationship. No doubt an interesting experience in any case.
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I also won't say things like (...) and other false things that aren't a constant (it isn't always true). Also, I'm talking about mostly western society, and these days, pretty much the world when I say people are being too open, not necessarily the forum.
Am I the only confused about these two sentences? Saying that generalizing is bad followed by... a generalization?
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Guys, just lay off High Max. He clearly has a unique perspective, and while he can be really condescending, he's not really working in the same world the rest of us are.
Let him do his thing. We can keep doing ours.
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No problem talking about sex, but I will not say "I did this and that with this and that person", but often times people will get detailed. I also won't say things like "loose" about a certain body part about an older woman on the forum and other false things that aren't a constant (it isn't always true). Also, I'm talking about mostly western society, and these days, pretty much the world when I say people are being too open, not necessarily the forum.
But others might. And I suspect this has more to do with your own personal comfort zone... which I respect. However, if you go into a thread with the title "I like older women" you've got to know what you're getting yourself into. Just try not to judge our other members so harshly. We're not about to make HLP into a porn site...but a little discussion is quite alright.
Western society is not yet open enough about sexuality as far as I'm concerned but lets leave that there. My definition of that is probably slightly different than what we're talking about right now.
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As for S-99...I wouldn't necessarily let the age gap cause you concern but in this case it doesn't sound much like a healthy relationship. No doubt an interesting experience in any case.
It was great while she was with me. But, yeah, i'd say it wasn't healthy either. Me and her didn't get it on. I just wanted to be with someone that was normal, and normal she was until i found out she has no obligations towards respecting a relationship herself.
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I also won't say things like (...) and other false things that aren't a constant (it isn't always true). Also, I'm talking about mostly western society, and these days, pretty much the world when I say people are being too open, not necessarily the forum.
Am I the only confused about these two sentences? Saying that generalizing is bad followed by... a generalization?
I don't recall saying "all" people. Maybe I should have been more specific.
It's what I get from posting at 3AM. :P
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And no, my saying I have things to do is not cowardice. It means I have better things to do than arguing and I really don't want to stress over this. It isn't cowardice; it is grown up.
It's not grown up at all. You don't have to demand a thread lock. The option to simply leave and not come back to the thread exists. No one is forcing you to stay. In fact no one even solicited your original post in the first place. You decided to come onto the thread and post your opinions, that's fine, you're entitled to do that. But then then when other people want to respond to them you want the thread locked so that they can't. That's selfish. You don't have the right to demand the last word on the subject.
Furthermore if you are asking for a lock because you don't want other people to pick holes in your argument then that is cowardly. You posted your opinions. The others have just as much right as you have to post their thoughts on your opinions. If you don't like that you shouldn't have posted your opinions for public ridicule.
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Trying to always have the last word in any argument is rather childish. It's why i just don't care when someone is very set in their ways.