[MercFox1]

See the edit back on page 11, lol. You're too quick, Fang.

[Mobius]

Double post!

I'm not sure of it, but I think that Vasudan Battlegroups are smaller than Terran Fleets, though the number of Battlegroups, overall, is superior. It's just an impression I have. I can think of the word Battlegroup as a certain number of warships led by one destroyer(but there could be two-three destroyers) with minimal logistical capabilities. A Fleet should be bigger and it should have fearsome logistical capabilities. The Battlegroup is ebsentially...a battlegroup, composed by strike forces. A Fleet should be able, for example, to rescue civilians and supply other units. The GVD Psamtik, in fact, rescued the Iota transports in the first mission

[Fang_Taichou]

After such a good showing in the "Reasons for a post-FS2 Colossus", I came here looking for an argument to take a side with...

Unfortunately, I'm still looking... 

EDIT: Ah yes, never mind. I can clear this right up.

I'm going to chalk up the mention of the 3rd Battle Group in the tech room to an internal [V] error. No where else in the game is the 3rd Battle Group mentioned, and it would make much more sense to mention the Perseus with respect to a relevant fleet (the 3rd) that Alpha 1 would eventually have under his command. Most everything that matters in FS2 matters to something the player has to do with.

Remember the Suicide Kings? The mission to get Macarthy? Yeah, that was relevant and also over 30 years old.

It would also make sense to figure that since the Aquitane is the flagship of the 3rd Fleet, and since the Psamtik is the flagship of the 13th Battle Group, what's different? They're both destroyers and provide the same level of command and control ability. Their both under the command of Admirals (Khafre and Petrarch). They both house many squadrons of fighters and have led military operations, in both the Nebula and in the NTF campaign. To say that the Vasudan "Battle Group" is smaller than the Terran "Fleet" could just be that of improper nomenclature. To me, there is no difference. They both provide the same level of force, and, depending on how damage the 3rd Fleet takes could actually make them less of a viable operational asset until it can be replenished, swinging this argument completely in reverse!

Besides, it's much easier to determine which species is responsible for what action by the difference in nomenclature. You automatically know the 3rd Fleet is Terran; you automatically know that the Psamtik is from the 13th Battlegroup.

I totally agree with you.  Battle groups = Vasudan, Fleet = Terran.  The reason why you see both Terran and Vasudan ships alongside each other is because they both follow orders from the same Command who sends them into battle together (especially if the individual fleets/battle groups don't have enough firepower on their own), but the for maintenance and organizational purposes they are kept separate (if you disagree then read up BETAC, it says so right in the tech database under Intel -> GTVA).

[Desert Tyrant]

- better intelligence
 - better tactics

Why do you say better intelligence and tatics? On FS1 the Lucifer outmaneuvered the GTA fleet to attack Vasuda Prime, that show the shivans know how to think at least.

Yeah but in FS1 the GTA was fairly unprepared to engage the Shivans, even atr that point.

My problem with the 'lol Shivans are toying with us lolz' is because we really just don't know anything about what their objectives, manpower, fleet numbers, etc are.  The SHivan's did try to take us out in FS1, but 2.. we, yet again, just don't know.

****ing Interplay.

[AlphaOne]

Lets just say that for now the shivans have yet to reveal theyr full motives ! Also while we do know a bit more about the shivans from scans of theyr ships most of the knoledge is limited to tactical info only about weaponry com shields etc. We dont know about theyr society or anithin like that!

[Hades]

I see why they call you !!!!!!!!!!!.
We do not know because did it that way.