[Nico]

he's the one who did EdTV? cool, it was a great movie.

[Odyssey]

I have a lot of respect for that guy. It takes a lot of guts to do that. Yes, a lot of what he said makes sense. Think about it, and so long as you're not a weird pro-american kinda person then you'll get the answer eventually.

[CP5670]

See what I mean? Lose a dozen more and we're gonna be "losing" and the White House will have to make the army beat a hasty retreat. Americans are pansies.

The American public is a very volatile bunch and the opinion goes up and down very rapidly in a war, so I bet in a few days some Iraqi division will be eliminated and the polls will skyrocket again, after which they find that ten more Americans died, so they plunge down again. All the US needs to do is finish off everything with some big victory (or of course, make it seem like one), and suddenly the polls will go back up and stay there.

You can say all you want, but the US army isn't very well trained to fight battles in a city with 6 million inhabitants from wich a part is fully against them.

A part? You do know that 1 person out of those 6 million would constitute a part, right? But seriously, the "part" here would be very small because Hussein's propaganda isn't doing much to say that his side will actually win over the US and kick them out completely, but only that the people should go down honorably fighting for their nation. Therefore, only the fanatics would fight for a lost cause while the vast majority would just sit out of the way, even those that do not like the US and support Hussein, since their life and immediate survival takes the first priority (remember that Iraq is one of the more secular of the Arab nations, so there are fewer suicidal extremists). Then there is also the option of just buying them out with practical necessities, which I posted about earlier.

A US-led military dictatorship, or a puppet government (and a vicious one at that) would be the only options that even stand a chance of working. Liberty for the Iraqis would be severely counterproductive when their interests run so counter to our own, and honestly, there's no reason at all that the US would do it.

The puppet government is probably the best idea, but it needs to be a government which looks like a democracy from the outside but is really staged and operated by Americans in secret; both the Iraqis and the rest of the world can be made to believe this, which would work out perfectly.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Odyssey
long as you're not a weird pro-american kinda person

Then I guess his making an ass of himself was only because he made the speech in the US eh ?

Sadder still is the man was booed off the stage by a group that for the most part is anti-bush/anti-war/ or both.

[karajorma]

The thing was that most of the people who would have applauded Michael Moore for the speech weren`t there cause they felt it in bad taste to go to the Oscars in the first place while there was a war going on.

[Warlock]

True I guess some feel life should go on hold during a war.

Anyways to me this guy's about as bad as Ross Perot was But the fact that he's still harping on the Florida misscount from the election is good comedy

[CP5670]

No idea what this is all about; I am assuming that some movie guy said some anti-American stuff somewhere?

I have a lot of respect for that guy. It takes a lot of guts to do that. Yes, a lot of what he said makes sense. Think about it, and so long as you're not a weird pro-american kinda person then you'll get the answer eventually.

Well, it also takes a lot of guts (very much more, in fact) to do what bin Laden and Hussein are doing, so all of those things can be said about them too.

[Warlock]

LOL

CP there's a few links here in the thread which will point you to his exact little 'speech'.

He's the guy with the whole "Fictious war about fictious reasons by a fictious president that won a fictious election" and I'm on a fictious diet because my fictious pants are to small for my fictious ass,...wait sorry got a little carried away there

[Tiara]

My fictious axe is going to split your fictious skull, and fictious zombie Stryke will eat your fictious brainzzzz.

j/k

[Warlock]

But then you'll find a fictious steel plate stopping your fictious ax while I have a fictious beam cannon implanted in your fictious tail to zap the fictious zombie



Ya know it's getting a bit too fictious in here

[an0n]

I am entirely non-ficticious and, given the chance, I WILL eat your brains.

[Darkage]

[SIZE=12]WTF!?[/SIZE]

[Warlock]

Originally posted by an0n
I am entirely non-ficticious and, given the chance, I WILL eat your brains.

*Tosses Darkage over to Anon*



Anyways I'm off to blow up random things on Generals (Provided I don't get nailed with the "Serious error" lol)

[Darkage]

Originally posted by Warlock


*Tosses Darkage over to Anon*



Anyways I'm off to blow up random things on Generals (Provided I don't get nailed with the "Serious error" lol)

The serious error is the most dangerous weapon of all!!:devil:

[an0n]

Originally posted by Darkage
The serious error is the most dangerous weapon of all!!:devil:

When engaging my Armies-O-Darknus™, even a Minor Error™ can result in massive devestation and the loss of many thousands of souls.

[Shrike]

Man, I read about his 'documentary' Bowling For Columbine.... how anyone can consider it anything other than a complete and utter fabrication amazes me.  He spliced and cut together various conversations to get the effect he wanted and basically stuck words in people's mouths.  Some documentary, eh?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

For all we know Bush could be ficticious. How many people here can claim to have met him.

I feel the same way about many cities. I've never been there, so how do I know they exist. I never believed London existed until I went to the Millenium Dome with school.

[Razor]

Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.

This guy is actually very smart. I think that should really happen. Get yourselves rid of Bush and all will be well and by the way, destroy your weapons of mass destruction as well.

[Stryke 9]

At least he's taking a principled stand. He's boorish and his understanding of politics doesn't seem to be exactly complex, but at least he's not choosing his opinions on the basis of what's fashionable and what's gonna make him popular in the short term, unlike many people... not least of all our president.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Quite agree, Razor. Why should one tyrannical despot with weapons of mass destruction be able to keep his while he confiscates those of another tyrannical despot?