[Styxx]

Originally posted by pyro-manic
 Happy days, eh?

* snip *

Translation: Why can't we all just get along?!?

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80
How about if we pick everyone not wanting peace in in the region and dump em in Siberia. Russia is pulling back much of it's population there so there's a lot of real-estate freeing up. Let them fight it out there.

I actually prefer putting them all in a giant warehouse full of knives and let them kill each other, then blowing up the warehouse when one side is dead.

But anyway, this entire conflict is completely senseless.  It's like the bloody Crusades all over again, but on a smaller scale.

Same thing with the whole Norther Ireland thing.  Stupid morons.

All three of the religions are essentially peaceful! They shouldn't be used as an excuse for bloodshed!

This is the same thing the Crusades.  Two religions, so similar it isn't even funny, trying to bash each others heads in. It's just so stupid.

[pyro-manic]

Originally posted by Styxx


Translation: Why can't we all just get along?!?

F***in' right.

Grey Wolf: Actually, it's even worse than that - Judaism, Christianity and Islam are actually just separate branches of the same religion. They just schismed off from each other at some point, over their interpretations of  theolo-historic (is this a word? you know what I mean) details: Jews don't believe Christ was the Messiah, Christians do. The Islamic split was further back, over which of two brothers (I forget which ones) was the rightful heir to something or other (again, I forget exactly what). Before this, they were all the same faith.

Damn, I just read my last post again. I must be depressed or something....  Still, it makes sense, doesn't it?

[Grey Wolf]

Actually, the split between Judaism and Islam was actually 600 years later, specifically in the time of Mohammed. What you are thinking of is the Muslim belief that they are descended from Ishmael, whereas there is a belief in Judaism that they are descended from Isaac. Both are believed to be sons of Abraham.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Actually, the split between Judaism and Islam was actually 600 years later, specifically in the time of Mohammed. What you are thinking of is the Muslim belief that they are descended from Ishmael, whereas there is a belief in Judaism that they are descended from Isaac. Both are believed to be sons of Abraham.

what's the difference in religion then?

note: i am an atheist myself and i never actually read any book of worship, except for somekind of explained bible, which was nice, but not all explaining.

[vyper]

I've been trying to think of a well thought out argument, or unbiased analysis of the events this thread is about. However, I've tried so many times before and failed, just like everyone, that its pointless.

My opinion: Oh S**t.

[Stryke 9]

We can't get along because it runs counter to human nature to get along. We're just as much a part of nature as everything else, meaning we're in a survivalist environment, and the weak-kneed all-loving hippie peacenik isn't as likely to survive or reproduce. Hence, a redneck breeding program inevitably slanted towards more violence, more individualism, and more endless warfare. Might as well ask why we can't all sprout fairy wings and fly to the lush fields of the Moon, where our every wish will be catered to and there will be no more pretexts to fight about.

[Rictor]

Peace will come when the price becomes too high to bear for both sides, and when they realize that neither will prevail

[Bobboau]

that will never happen

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Rictor
Peace will come when the price becomes too high to bear for both sides, and when they realize that neither will prevail

For some, revenge doesn't have a price tag.

In other words: One starts the other retaliates, and vice cersa. [insert endless loop and increasing hatred towards eachother]

[Knight Templar]

Like a game of tag that got way out of control, now featuring helicoptor strikes and suicide teenage bombers.

[Turnsky]

just my opinion sandy.. i hope that the palestinan(sp?) terrosts don't get thier hands on a nuke (a longshot/hypothetical situation)

would they use it? probably not(hopefully but who knows the mindset of these people).. remember the lasting effects that a nuke has? fallout, residual radiation... things like that could affect a much larger area than people like to think...

remember chernobyl?(sp?) whilst not a thermonuclear detonation(close enough) radioactive debris was spread over much of russia and a fair bit of europe..

hiroshima was a similar case... and most tac nukes have a larger yield (even old russian cold war era ones..)

my advice sandy.. keep yer head down.. and pray to god you don't get yerself killed...

either that.. or plan on moving to australia/america;)

[Knight Templar]

Yea, but the second they nuke Israel, the rest of the world (US) would be all over their ass. Not gonna happen.

[Turnsky]

exactly... but it would make for one hell of a bluff...

and chances are, the US would send Australia's SAS forces in..

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Turnsky
and chances are, the US would send Australia's SAS forces in..

Heh - chances are they'd get the job done too

[Turnsky]

no kidding..

[Nico]

Originally posted by Turnsky
remember chernobyl?(sp?) whilst not a thermonuclear detonation(close enough) radioactive debris was spread over much of russia and a fair bit of europe..

no blast at all.
as for the radioactive cloud, actually, it's been proven that it made a trip around the entire planet and back to Tchernobyl, at least.

[vyper]

Originally posted by Turnsky
exactly... but it would make for one hell of a bluff...

and chances are, the US would send Australia's SAS forces in..

Because the British SAS would have already finished the job, packed up, gone home, got laid, had a few beers....

[Arnav]

Ok, time to break out my plan for a super-army under UN control.... never gonna happen

[Stryke 9]

Yay! UNATCO!:D