[Knight Templar]

Meh. Good enough.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by an0n
The Machines can't control the Matrix. They don't have the permissions.

Only the Architect can do that.

but the architect is controlled by the machines isn't he?

[übermetroid]

I would say that it is mor elike he is part of the Machine community.

[an0n]

The Architect is just another super-program. If he had any real-world manifestation, I'd say it'd be the whole 'power-plant'/Matrix.

[Devils_Hitman]

he's Cornel  Sanders.

[an0n]

"Well, s'n. I say, we seem t' have a praahblem he'r. It seems that boiee call'd Nee-oh has caous'd sum praahblems in that the-ar May-treecks."

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
... the whole balancing of the equation thing, meaning it has to be balanced all the time. So if neo goes, Smith would go.

I really want to whack people with a wrench when they pursue this line of thought. The balance people keep squawking about in the Matrix films is primarily a philosophical concept. The idea that, "OMG if Ne0 dies than all teh Smiths die becuz of that thing the Oracle said about him being his oposite!" is bull****. This is the sort of hopelessly fuzzy thinking that also has no problem with Neo being able to wirelessly connect to the Matrix.

[Knight Templar]

I still thought that that was just as stupid as you apparently think it was. And I'm not really a 'balance' person.. it's just a theory.

[übermetroid]

It sounds too much like Star Wars too....  Not that I disslike starwars, but the balance of the force is lame.

[01010]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
I really want to whack people with a wrench when they pursue this line of thought. The balance people keep squawking about in the Matrix films is primarily a philosophical concept. The idea that, "OMG if Ne0 dies than all teh Smiths die becuz of that thing the Oracle said about him being his oposite!" is bull****. This is the sort of hopelessly fuzzy thinking that also has no problem with Neo being able to wirelessly connect to the Matrix.

I think that Smith dies because once Neo destroys him the first time and he comes back, his sole aim is to destroy Neo. Once he achieves that aim he has no reason to exist and he kinda just self destructs. I dunno, it's kinda a loose theory but it sort of fits to me.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by 01010
...his sole aim is to destroy Neo. Once he achieves that aim he has no reason to exist and he kinda just self destructs. I dunno, it's kinda a loose theory but it sort of fits to me.

Yeah, it is loose - and it ignores Smith's own declaration that he wants 'everything' (destroying Neo = everything? questionable). I like ZB's theory - Smith was connected to DEM via Neo, allowing DEM to devise and distribute an anti-virus into Smith and destroy him.

[01010]

Originally posted by Setekh


Yeah, it is loose - and it ignores Smith's own declaration that he wants 'everything' (destroying Neo = everything? questionable). I like ZB's theory - Smith was connected to DEM via Neo, allowing DEM to devise and distribute an anti-virus into Smith and destroy him.

My memory is shot to bits so I don't remember Smith stating that. My bad. I must admit, I do like the way a lot of the film is open to interpretation, but there are too mant important pieces of plot that seem to just happen without much explanation as to why.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by 01010


My memory is shot to bits so I don't remember Smith stating that. My bad. I must admit, I do like the way a lot of the film is open to interpretation, but there are too mant important pieces of plot that seem to just happen without much explanation as to why.

[q]Smith: you look surprised to see me again, Mr. Anderson, that's the difference between us. I've been expecting you.
Neo: What do you want, Smith?
Smith: Oh you haven't figured that out? Still using all the muscles except the one that matters. I want exactly what you want. I want everything.[/q]

Transcripts are our friends. At least till I get the DVD.

[Knight Templar]

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by Setekh
Smith was connected to DEM via Neo, allowing DEM to devise and distribute an anti-virus into Smith and destroy him.

Except that it was Neo who did that, not Deus Ex Machina.

[an0n]

I still think Neo, once taken by Smith, was little more than a meat-puppet for the Machine-God. It abused his body so it could screw with the Matrix.

[Stunaep]

Well, to sum up, The W brothers never intended it to be three movies. That's clear now.

Die, hollywood, die.

[Levyathan]

That's true. They just knew they had too much material for one movie - which doesn't mean it was supposed to be a trilogy.

[übermetroid]

I think they had plenty of meterial for 3 movies...  They just never used it all the the extreme.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Stunaep
Well, to sum up, The W brothers never intended it to be three movies. That's clear now.

Die, hollywood, die.

no, they did.  in the very beginning they said there'd be three movies, one about his birth, another about his life, and yet another of his death