[Nico]

...sue me


Trooper by me, assault rifle by me, pistol taken on some website but couldn't remember where to save my life.
Text by me too, heh.

[Knight Templar]

He has his own nebula.

[Nico]

nah, that's bad chakra

[Stryke 9]

Ooh, you can make character models now.

[quietly starts laying traps all around thread]

[DragonClaw]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Ooh, you can make character models now.

He's been able to for a long time


Speaking of that. I need a character model. Bleh.

[Stryke 9]

Yes, but I only just noticed now. Plus, I didn't really give two ****s about character modeling before, as before I merely hated it and didn't have anything to do with it. Now I hate it and need some done. See the difference?

If only people gave a damn about renders and movies and so on that didn't have ****in' people in them. It's like photography all over again.

Anyway. Model's pretty good. Woman's scary, if not all that threateningly so. Pants, belt, and so on are nicely done, pretty realistic. Helmet's one of those hugeass ones that don't serve any discernible function- okay. Uncovered arms would be bad mojo for combat, though. Uncovered anything that you want to keep mobile and not bleeding generally are.

[Nico]

Woman? That's a dude ( I'll post a clear pic tonight ( don't have the time right now, but I can redirect you to this:


( click pic for the video )

If you still think he looks like a chick, I'll eat my hat ( I don't have a hat, but still )
The helmet is not so large, it's the camera angle ( seen from underneath ) that gives that feeling. But the thing has all sorts of integrated crap, indluding some kind of virtual helmet screen that can be lowered, so it has to be bigger than normal.
Last time I checked, real soldiers don't even have chest plates, so I guess they are bad for combat

[icespeed]

er... he _does_ look like a girl. i think its because of the waist, its really skinny. possibly the arms as well.

[Solatar]

"he" looks almost like he has titties...

[Nico]

HAHAHA. How old are you? he has tities. arf, lol.

Jokes aside, the guy has quite a large breastplate. the waist, then, will of course look thiner than it is, since it is based on the dude's body, not body+armor. As far as I know, the arms thickness is right ( might look a bit thin for the same reason ) compared to the rest of the actual body ( we're not in a comics here, if you except schwartzy, not many people have arms thicker than their neck ).
I might sound pissed of, I probably am, but it's not because of the comments, it's because I cannot post a darn pic of the dude w/o his armor because the fcking Swooh is acting up again

[Anaz]

lol venom...go penguinbomb

and the main problem with "him" is the face, IMO...the lips are far to small, and the face looks more woman-ish (something with the cheekbones + jaw)

[Nico]

Well since you all have a different reason for him looking like a chick...
darn, I s'pose if I post a pic of one of my female meshes, you're gonna tell me she looks like a guy

[Stunaep]

wanna find out?

[Nico]

sure, let's tempt the devil:

No pic w/o hemet, coz swooh ftp is still as dead as a drowned rat.

[Knight Templar]

Looks girly to me..

[Stryke 9]

Looks like she'd have a hell of a lot of trouble supporting all that armor, what she looks like. Light frame on a soldier?


Look at the guys you see in the news sometime. They look like sports jocks, most of the older ones (everyone's kinda stringy at 18) like a side of beef. You gotta be pretty strong and tough to be competent in infantry combat.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Looks like she'd have a hell of a lot of trouble supporting all that armor, what she looks like. Light frame on a soldier?

That's not an armor, that's a flight suit, not armored or anything. It's pretty light and not made to wistand a bullet shot.

Look at the guys you see in the news sometime. They look like sports jocks, most of the older ones (everyone's kinda stringy at 18) like a side of beef. You gotta be pretty strong and tough to be competent in infantry combat. [/B]

Ok, I have friends who are soldiers ( have my best friend, and I know a few of his direct friends, one of them being the father of his sister's son ). They dont look like Rambo or anything, but still they are much tougher than me. And don't serve me crap about US soldiers being better or anything. I have TV too, I've seen US soldiers in Irak, half of them had naked arms ( well it's hot, there ), and they didn't look like they could kill a bull with one punch.
But to wrap this up, that's my style, period. I don't like comics like characters, they loose the weak side of humanity that makes them believable and that makes people being able to identify to them.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Nico

 And don't serve me crap about US soldiers being better or anything. I have TV too, I've seen US soldiers in Irak, half of them had naked arms ( well it's hot, there ), and they didn't look like they could kill a bull with one punch.

I think he was getting at that you don't see petite 95 lb women, or stringie 135 lb dudes in the infantry so much as you see athletic high school football team, go to the gym 4+ times a week guys. Not supermen.

[Stryke 9]

Exactly. Someone who couldn't manage a pullup is sure as hell not going to be in any army that actually does, you know, fighting. And if they were, they wouldn't last very long, if nothing else machine guns weigh a ****ing ton after about the second hour of carrying 'em.

And you know what? Iraq'snot just hot, it's ****ing hot. When they're not in a combat situation or likely to be any time soon, light uniforms really are necessary- heatstroke would be decimating the forces otherwise. But anyone who's going to be fighting is going to need to move around a lot in some pretty rough terrain. You ever notice how when you scrape your elbows even a bit your arm gets stiffened up? Yeah, that's you dead in a firefight, right there. Good, thick fabric like is used in military clothing isn't just there because it makes the soldiers look bigger- preventing relatively minor abrasions and lacerations helps prevent rather more critical things like a 7.62 round to the forehead. And that's kinda important. Spare clothing is a good tradeoff when you're in an excessively hot climate. And given the heaviness of the rest of that suit, it wouldn't help much in such a situation there anyway.

You don't like unbelievably over-buff characters. And that's fine, I'd be cracking steroid jokes right now if you were. But are unbelievably stringy, frail characters any better? Hell, maybe it's just me, but that sounds a good bit sillier.

I think you're making the mistake of assuming "looking funky" is a desirable trait in military gear. It's not, if you're designing it around aesthetics and fashion it's gonna just look wrong, wrong, wrong, no matter what you do. There are very few things more utilitarian than the army, and if you're thinking about something other than what is needed for those clothes/vehicles/whatever, you've already ****ed up. Just having some exteraneous for no clearly stated reason, or making up half-assed excuses after the fact to defend the thing, isn't gonna help- you're not gonna convince anybody, and people will notice.

[Krackers87]

it could habe mechanical servitors or watchamawhosits that help you move the tons of armour. Think ripleys Cargo lifting suit from the aliens serires. NO way she moved those arms on her own.