[Rictor]

Originally posted by Bobboau
Next Columbine Swordsman

I havn't listened to the radio in nearly two years, I stoped when one day I realised all the music being played (in the five minutes between half hour comercal breaks) sounded the same and it sounded like it was being sung be kids, it sounded like 14 year olds all of it.
the only band the makes anything aproching decent music currently is System of a Down.

Radio? 'Course you get a bad impression when you listen to...radio. Personally, I listen to radio for maybe 20 minutes every 6 months. If you want to find good music, you have to get past all the crap that they play on the radio. Thats what Kazaa is for. There is a whole world of music that is not covered (well, much) by TV and radio, and most of it is much better than the same old boy band crap they've got you listening to.

[kasperl]

I don't even have a working radio right now, my alarm clock is soo awfull i wake up to radio noise (nice and loud though ). Kazaa is indeed usefull for sampling large amounts of bands. According to the Wikipedia, the stuff that i listen to is mainly Grunge/Punk/Alternative Rock. Not that any of those means anything to me.

[Rictor]

Epitaph

If you like punk but have trouble finding good bands, or if you just want to see what punk is about, this website is for you. Epitaph is the single largest and most renowned punk label, and they have great variety among the bands. You can check out the different artists on the website and most have an mp3 or two available to download. Essentially, *the* studio to follow if you want to hear good punk.

Though I don't pretend to be a connesuier (sp?), I knows what I likes, so heres some bands I suggest you check out.

NOFX, Pennywise, Bouncing Souls, Anti-Flag, The Living End, Bad Religion, Against All Authority, Dropkick Murphys (Irish), Rancid and the Mad Caddies (ska).

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
I listen to Nightwish. They're more of a combination of rock/opera than punk.

I stopped listening to punk music when EVERY SINGLE BAND started to sound the same.

Nightwish redefines 'rock opera'. Its like metal opera. It does help that the girl that fronts them is actually classicly trained in... opera.

I'm surprised that people like System of a Down though. They sound terribly commercial to me.

[Fineus]

You should see them live, they put on a very good show indeed.

[mikhael]

I don't do 'live', unless the band comes to my house and puts on a concert for me in my living room.

I have serious problems with concerts.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by mikhael
I don't do 'live', unless the band comes to my house and puts on a concert for me in my living room.

I have serious problems with concerts.

if you don't mind me asking, i am rather curious what those are, really.

For me, i always hate how loud the music is, anywhere really. I get physicly sick from it, loose all feeling for directions and just get painfull ears from anything other people consider "normal" volume at party's.

[Jiggyhound]

i prefer the back room gigs, more fun

[mikhael]

Kas, I have trouble dealing with being around large numbers of people.

[kasperl]

well, that has never been my favourite way of spending time either, so i think i get what you mean.

[Janos]

Edit: They have feelings deeper than Mariana Trench! They are better than you! They can quote HIM and other gothish bands very accurately! Praise your Emo Goth Punk Overlords!

[Unknown Target]

I've never been to a concert. An island that's in the middle of nowhere isn't the best place to put on a rock concert

Plus, I hate large crowds as well, so i probably wouldn't go anyway.

Janos...what the hell?

[mikhael]

Its really funny though: I never had a problem being in big crowds in Japan, nor did I mind concerts there. Here, though? Hell no. I don't go to the mall by myself.

[Lonestar]

Even though pop punk may suck to some, its a new wave of music.

So with the first era of Punk it was pioneered as new music and got new fans. Later, punk was rivatilized and changed somewhat in the 80's to become the 80's punk we all know, it was trailblzed from people who listened to the first sound of punk, these people changed punk to be punk we hear now.

Then we get to the modern times. Punk has been here for awhile now and people are beginning to modernize it to be more hip and be mainstream.

All music goes through this change, and everyone always argues over it. Classic rock turned to heavy metal which turned to goth metal which turned to crazy death metal.

Country came from twanging country boys singing through their nose, to being a pop culture icon of the 90's and year 2000.

So we need music to suck sometimes in order for it to get better. Fact is the famous people making the music you hate actually contribute to the music getting better or changing, so instead of bashing them you should thank each and every one of them for pioneering a new sound, one without them would never exist.

[Drew]

hmmm funny, linkin park is mainstream but it dosnt sound like much else becuase of the electronica incoperated in it.

[Janos]

Originally posted by Lonestar


So we need music to suck sometimes in order for it to get better. Fact is the famous people making the music you hate actually contribute to the music getting better or changing, so instead of bashing them you should thank each and every one of them for pioneering a new sound, one without them would never exist.

I hope you are kidding. Seriously. It's MUSIC[/u], its supposed to provoke emotions. I like some new musical styles and praise them. But if I hate it and them, I do not treat them anyhow specially. Its just music which sucks, n/m whether it "adds to genre" or not.

Because if we follow that attitude, everyone should like anything anyone ever plays. I go and play this magnificent piece of art and everyone should be like oh, and we all end up as Borgs with similar musical tastes.

And I don't know if Limp Bizkit's latest abominations can credit as "pioneering a new sound".

/end rant

[beatspete]

Originally posted by mikhael

I have serious problems with concerts...
I have trouble dealing with being around large numbers of people.

Do you live in a dark basement with just a computer or something?.
Half of a concert is the audience. Where's the amtosphere then? Can you imagine wathcing a sports match in a stadium by yourself?
Music is meant to be seen live. Go see the world.

[Knight Templar]

I thought Limp Bizkit's new CD was supposed to be 'teh shizat' ?

[Janos]

It's t3h cr4p if you don't like it
(Or at least that's how I handle muzak nowadays.)

[beatspete]

Originally posted by Lonestar
So we need music to suck sometimes in order for it to get better....

But not every band/artist does something to expand their genre. The Neptunes, as producers, have done a lot for pop - look at Justin or Britney - and some acts can put out a song that defines their genre ie S Club 7 made a good pop tune in "dont stop moving". But some/most (depending on genre) dont.  They put out sub-standard songs just to get cash for their record company. They dont try anything new, or even do ordinary things well.

I agree the world needs some "average" bands to fill the void on radio playlists, but people making weak music with intrest only in money, not quality tunes, should be working in Mcdonalds.




With respect to the whole pop-punk thing, I'm glad my whole generation (being 18 years old) just missed out on it. Where I come from atleast, all the nu-metal kids are a couple of years younger - their all a bunch of skaters/stoners/wasters.  People my age are much more into quality indie and the new-rock revolution.  There's a lot of good bands coming out at the moment that seem to being doing much better in the UK than in America (where a lot of them are from), because there's a good sized crowd looking for something that rocks but doesnt shovel dr4m4 angst up its own ass (see metal, metallica). Check out bands like The Killers, The Von Bondies, The Rapture, Franz Ferdinand, Eastern Lane, The Zutons, Hundred Reasons, The Libertines, and The Vines.