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Offline Styxx

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Okay, now it should work... At least mostly. Here's the MAX 5 version, the other two come tomorrow (don't have the SDKs here for compilation):

http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/sticks/pofexp-max5.zip
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To tell you guys the truth, programming is so far beyond my comprehension level, but from what I  observed in 3dsmax, smoothgrouping  adds extra normals where necessary on vertices. Are these the normals you folks are talking about? So is Freespace capable of having vertices with multiple normals that will produce smoothgroups?

 

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OK another dumb question, do you just like draw it to model it, or do you hafta do alotta numbers n ****?
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
To tell you guys the truth, programming is so far beyond my comprehension level, but from what I  observed in 3dsmax, smoothgrouping  adds extra normals where necessary on vertices. Are these the normals you folks are talking about? So is Freespace capable of having vertices with multiple normals that will produce smoothgroups?


Yes, FS is capable of that, and that's what I'm trying to fix here. The normals on the main LOD0 mesh seems to be working correctly now, but it's screwing up the other subobjects, apparently. It would be really awful of the normal index was a per-POF file matter instead of per-subobject (which is already bad enough) - cause I can't think of another reason for the normals to be messed up on the subobjects.

Bob, can you confirm that? Are the normal indexes accumulated per subobject?
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ummmmm......models are cool.  Chocolate anyone?
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I remember those days when model creation involved logarithms and stuff. POV-Ray I think. God bless those who invented GUI. If you know how to use Adobe Illustrator, that would be a rudamentary lesson in model creation. Throw extrusions and splines into the mix and you basically got modelling techniques. If you want to get into modeling, tryout Gmax.

 

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Ok, I just noticed that it will keep correct smoothing information on the submodels, as long as the faces are assigned to a smoothing group. Auto-smoothing doesn't seem to help a lot, though.
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And a warning - now it seems to be crashing on the second time I try to export something on the same session, so save your scene before exporting.
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Hmm, good news - auto-smooth will work if you convert the model to an Editable Mesh before exporting. :)
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is there a poly limit on this? I've got a 5098 poly ship, that just refuses to convert... Thats only with detail-0 and nothing else too...
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Offline Styxx

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Nope, I've converted ships with over 10k polys with no problem... What's happening? If it just crashes, you should check the materials, see if they're all properly set and all. If they're all ok, send me the log files and I'll try to check it out.
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Well, its opening in modelview fine... And it worked as a pof when it was about 30 meters long, but now when i put it into FRED, I get a CTD...
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Well, then that's probably a FRED problem...
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Offline Hippo

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Well, now the results are different... It used to be that BEFORE it rendered the model, it would crash, now its after... I'm trying it ingame now...
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Ok, worked in the tech room, but it took almost 30 seconds to load the model (don't know if thats normal, as its the first model i've tried on my laptop)... It worked ingame fine, but when i minimised to type this, it CTD'd... I don't know if it was Alt-Tabbing, or something mission related... So i'll check again... I'll also try with different FRED builds...
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Alt-TABing kills FS2 for me even without using anything this plug-in made. I suspect the problem was the same for you.

As for taking 30 seconds to convert is this a HTL model? This is the 5096poly model you refered to earlier? If so then I'm surprised it converted that quickly. :) Again this is an FS2_Open problem and most likely nothing to do with this converter.
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My God, the shading is PERFECT!!!!  CASED CLOSED is the shading issue!!! Styxx, MAD KUDOS!!!!

The only issue left is the reversed shading on the parent mesh. As you can see the nacelles have the proper shading and the the rest of the hull is reversed. I'll try reversing the order to see what happens.


 

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Hmm, it's like the normals are flipped? I can see it's "shadowing" the wrong side of the engineering body section... Strange stuff, as it's the exact same code that generates the normals for all submodels, independent of order (it's the same method that builds all Object chunks). But I'll look into it.
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