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Offline Ryx

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Reply #160 on: August 29, 2004, 03:52:23 pm
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Could you have lights linked to path points? I'm just trying to figure out some way of being able to visually define all the POF data; that's a main reason why I like Modelview32 so much.


Not in MAX 6, unless I did it wrong.

What you could do is to turn on snap-to-grid, or rather vertex (grid and snap settings), and then create a light at each point and define a radius. That would fix a visual representation.

Maybe something can be done with name the light after the path's point, or something.

Just an idea.
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Reply #161 on: August 30, 2004, 05:39:01 pm
I hate MAX 6, btw. I want my tabbed toolbar back! Waaaa!!
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Reply #162 on: August 30, 2004, 08:04:00 pm
Er, press "I". Or whatever the key is on your installation. It's still there, you know. :p
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Reply #163 on: August 30, 2004, 08:11:43 pm
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now is that another app or does it plug in to maxes interface? you see it would be easyer to save as a 3ds frome truespace than to use a third application. the idea was to eliminate a step, not add one.
third app. But it preserves everything better. I have yet to get a mesh from TS saved as 3ds to load in max. Always invalid file format.
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Reply #164 on: August 30, 2004, 10:58:33 pm
Raa you must IMPORT it, not OPEN it. TS doesn't save the best 3ds format either. I get those errors now and then.
 

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Reply #165 on: August 31, 2004, 12:49:21 am
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Er, press "I". Or whatever the key is on your installation. It's still there, you know. :p


Show Tab Panel or whatever? Doesn't work. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #166 on: September 02, 2004, 02:24:57 pm
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How would I go about adding rotating subobjects? I'm trying to give this Dropship moving wings (timed and controlled in Fred of course) I'd also would like to utilize rotation for the forward gun turret. Your "readme.txt" has no mention of "barrel-x" which is in the sample. I'm guessing it needs to be linked to the turretbase?

http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~bridgecommander/phpBB/files/dropship.jpg


I just caught that; to make the barrel rotate I think it needs to be a physical subsystem but not a turret to link to firing.  You'll need to consult the barrel rotation documentation on how to get it working, but for the moment just make it a subobject.

I still can't get this plugin to work, but I have a model ready to be put through it.  Anyone with Max 5.1 want to take a crack at it?

EDIT: And this is moot since paths have already been implimented, but if you wanted a visual representation of path point radius, you'd need a dummy object at each point defining the path, rather than a line.  The line method helps you see the path itself better though, so it's probably the best overall bet.
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Reply #167 on: September 02, 2004, 05:21:48 pm
I have Max 5.1 (about) and it still wont work
 

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Reply #168 on: September 02, 2004, 05:52:06 pm
That makes two of us.  I have the SDK, I'd recompile it on my comp if Styxx would let me borrow the source, but that is of course entirely up to him.
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Reply #169 on: September 02, 2004, 06:24:17 pm
The plugin posted for MAX 5 was compiled with the 5.1 SDK, which is available at the Discreet website.
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Reply #170 on: September 02, 2004, 06:26:56 pm
Then it probably wouldn't do me any good.  Oh well.
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Reply #171 on: September 02, 2004, 09:05:14 pm
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I hate MAX 6, btw. I want my tabbed toolbar back! Waaaa!!



For the fellow MAX6 users, who got used to the TAB bar from 5 and GMax:

http://clownbarf.com/downloads/max6_tab_bar.zip

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Reply #172 on: September 03, 2004, 01:10:57 pm
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I still can't get this plugin to work, but I have a model ready to be put through it.  Anyone with Max 5.1 want to take a crack at it?


Anyone?  It's Vasudan and it goes public, if that helps.  I'm trying to get the half-dozen "waiting for conversion" models together, since I don't have to mess with truespace now (in theory).
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Reply #173 on: September 03, 2004, 08:26:23 pm
Well, if my copy of Max actually worked, I'd do it for ya. But it's allowed itself to creep to the intardnet and find it's authorization code on the blacklist...
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Reply #174 on: September 06, 2004, 02:16:43 pm
If its all set up with the correct labeling, send it to me ( [email protected] ) and i'll convert it...

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Reply #175 on: September 06, 2004, 03:37:22 pm
Er, no idea. How are they handled on the POF?
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Reply #176 on: September 06, 2004, 04:20:51 pm
turret01-destroyed  :p
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Reply #177 on: September 06, 2004, 04:57:53 pm
Actually I'm not really sure; they are essentially live debris linked to the turret subobject I think.  No editing program, to the best of my knowledge, actually renders them correctly, so I don't even know where to look to check that.
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Reply #178 on: September 06, 2004, 05:08:00 pm
Destroyed turrets are usually set as subobjects in the same way as turrets are... they 'linkage' occurs as they have the same name with '-destroyed' appended - there's no gluing / connection to the turret subobject.

Debris is handled in the same way except, IIRC, you need to set a rotation axis, and can also have multiple debris objects i.e. turret01-'debris01' etc.
 

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Reply #179 on: September 07, 2004, 10:18:02 am
Any progress on implementing rotating multi-part turrets or subobjects? I'm trying to get the nose machine guns for the ALIENS dropship working ,and in addition, the folding wings and bomb bays.

PCS does not like editing the Dropship POF model made with your MAX plugin. Perhaps its the model? It just crashes and renders the POF dead when I try to implement rotation and other subobject properties. I've yet to try the same thing with the latest Modelview but that program limits me to use models under a particular polygon count (Galaxy starship model = 11k polys)

On the plus side, your plugin workd WONDERS with shading and has increased performance in game vs the Galaxy model I converted via PCS. I got an extra 5-10 FPS. Perhaps its because I'm using MUCH less materials considering I no longer have to create duplicate materials to get smooth groups to render correctly.

Keep up the good work. ;)
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