[Grey Wolf]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18088
Apparently, Activision doesn't like Enterprise very much.....

[Knight Templar]

Taken two episodes off air? DS9 and Voyager went 7 seasons... and Voyager was stretching it at that. I don't know how much more metagamming B&B could do against the Borg before I exploded.

Why don't they make a game on Enterprise? I could see some nice "Elite Force" type potential, especially given Enterprise Season III, which has been the best trek since the end of DS9. However, in all fairness, Nemesis blew, hard.

meh.

[Ford Prefect]

Okay, Enterprise sucks so much that it generated a lawsuit.

Umm, Viacom has been sued because its show sucks so badly.

Errr, Activision has taken legal action because Enterprise sucks too much.


Nope, this needs no punch line.

[Knight Templar]

Well, it's not so much that Enterprise sucks, but that it sucked.

I seriously think the third season made a big comeback, and could deffinitely bring the franchise back, provided they make sense of the stupid Alien Nazi junk. The only problem is, I'm betting a good deal of people thought after two seasons of mediocrity, "wow, this sucks, I'll go watch Fox instead." I know I did, and I didn't come back until I saw the Season 3 premire for the first time. So until Enterprise can make a bigger splash among the disenfranchised fans, I think it'll always be on the tetering line of doom.

[Kosh]

This is rich.

Activision has produced several crappy Star Trek games (Armada and Armada 2 come to mind) and now they are sueing another company for making crappy Star Trek  tv shows/movies?

[Knight Templar]

Armada... crappy? It was one of the better Star Trek games. I could see Armada II maybe, although it was better than not having Armada II...

There are plenty of ****tier Trek Games. Hidden Evil. Dominion Wars. The Chess one...

[Kosh]

It could have been good, had it not have several technical problems.

You were definatly right about Dominion Wars. I tried the demo and it didn't even work right. It had potential, but it was pretty f***k'd up.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Well, it's not so much that Enterprise sucks, but that it sucked.

I seriously think the third season made a big comeback, and could deffinitely bring the franchise back, provided they make sense of the stupid Alien Nazi junk.

Amen.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Kosh
It could have been good, had it not have several technical problems.

You were definatly right about Dominion Wars. I tried the demo and it didn't even work right. It had potential, but it was pretty f***k'd up.

Yeah... I bought the game.

While it actually worked for me, the fasion in which it worked was rather annoying. That is to say, the game sucked. Maybe I had it on easy or something, but basically all I did was click at the biggest ships and have my guys kill them first before they killed my guys. And if there were too many big ships, then I'd run away. However, when all is said and done, the game did produce the Achilles-Class, the coolest Starfleet ship next to the Sovereign and the Defiant.

On A Sidenote: It almost seems like you have to be a niche-startrek gamer to enjoy any of their games, bar maybe the first Elite Force. Most their games are admittedly subpar in comparision, but their real saving grace is that they are _Star Trek_ games, thus making them fun.

Example A: Birth of the Federation. Some people complain about how it was utterly confusing, boring, the tactical system sucked, it was nothing new, the interface blew, etc. I saw it as the first and only ST game that let you manage ST empires in an ST setting, and gladly read through the manual and accepted the ****ty tactical interface to play it. It's even fun to play with a friend, provided it doesn't crash, or you don't spend forever building up only to be crushed by a ('realistically') unstoppable Borg Cube.

Then again, I loved Star Wars Rebellion.

Example B: Armada. Apparently a good deal of people didn't like it, or thought it was buggy, or just not good. personally, the only problem I saw was the shortage of units (only 6 or so per side) and the fairly obvious and annoyingly uncannonical balancing of units. ( Negh'var = Warbird = Sovereign = Borg Cube = Jem'Hedar Destroyer ). However, the actual gamming factor, replay value, fun, and even story ranged from acceptable to nice for me. Which led to my dissappointment with Armada II. A2 being all the flashy things the devs forgot to include into A1. 20 ships per faction, everything dies almost instantly so battles are aplenty. Species 8472. Species 8472 plot to rule the galaxy, etc. Bleh.

[Bri_Dog]

Starfleet Command was the best trek game

[Kosh]

In version 1.0 of Armada 2, the Borg Cubes were insanely powerful. Armada 1 did have some technical problems. The one I had, the sound was doing some wierd stuff on desktop (which has a SB Live).


I liked both Elite Force games. They were what most other Trek games should have been: bug free, stable, fun, interesting to non-trekkies (admittedly I am a bit of a trekkie), decent dialogue, decent plot, and good gameplay. Virtually all of the other Trek games were missing one or more of those things. I feel that Elite Force broke the "Star Trek gaming curse".

Bridge commander was good. I didn't think it was as good as FS or FS2, but it was what Dominion Wars could have been and should have been.

[Bri_Dog]

BC had an AWSOME engine.....it's just that the game itself got boring...even with mods.

[Xelion]

Ds9 The Fallen, now that is a great game and was also made ahead of its time.

theinquirer.net
GAMES COMPANY Activision is suing Viacom over a lack of any decent Star Trek.

but its true what they said, Viacom needs to get things rolling

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Bri_Dog
BC had an AWSOME engine.....it's just that the game itself got boring...even with mods.

I thought BC was interesting and unique, but it did gfet boring, I agree. It's sort of boring to sit there and watch crewmembers shake around in their seats and a phaser shotting from your ship's ass hitting the enemy.

They could've added waaaay more tactical immersion into the game to make it more interesting, imho.

[Anubis2k4]

Why don't they make a game on Enterprise? I could see some nice "Elite Force" type potential

If you possess a copy of Star Trek Voyager Elite Force there is a total conversion mod in the works for an Enterprise single player game, theres already a three level teaser out, and it is a great game.  I'd reccommend anyone with a copy of Elite Force to head over to Elite Force Files  and pick up the teaser, they're great levels.

And i'd love to see some more Voyager games out there, TNG sucked and it got loads of movies and games, its time for Voyager to have some.  It was the best series after all.

[Ace]

I'm not going to comment on what Anubis just said about Voyager...

Needless to say, there's been good Trek games (like the old TOS adventure game ones and Elite Force) and some bad ones.

I wish that the Secret of Vulcan Fury thing was actually finished and Interplay didn't kill it... oh well

[Tiara]

SFC III was a nice game. Nice campaigns, Awesomeness of flying Borg ships and Borg missions, Picard voice, Tal'Shiar operative missions, being a member of a Klingon house... Not to mention that it finally let you modify the entire layout of your ship (finally after 3 other SFC versions). Really, It made me feel like a part of the ST universe.

TNG sucked and it got loads of movies and games, its time for Voyager to have some. It was the best series after all.

You, sir, scare me. TNG owned (besides the first and 5th season). Have you ever seen Best of Both World Pt.1 & 2? Best. Episodes. EVAR.

The only thing I missed in TNG was an overall plot. But that wasn't the set up for the series anyway. The set up for the series was exploration and basically following the duties of a Starfleet sship throughout  it's service. And IMO they did a pretty good job.

[Tiara]

Ow, and:

[Anubis2k4]

Have you ever seen Best of Both World Pt.1 & 2? Best. Episodes. EVAR.

Actually, i'm not too sure whether i've watched it or not.  I have watched quite a few TNG episodes, mainly to see Patrick Stewart's brilliant portrayal of Jean Luc Picard, but the brilliance of TNG starts and ends with Picard.  
As for best episodes ever, many Voyager episodes are so much better than any TNG episodes.  Year of Hell parts one and two, Futures End parts one and two, Meld, Scorpion parts one and two,  Shattered, Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy.  The list goes on.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Anubis2k4

Actually, i'm not too sure whether i've watched it or not.  I have watched quite a few TNG episodes, mainly to see Patrick Stewart's brilliant portrayal of Jean Luc Picard, but the brilliance of TNG starts and ends with Picard.  

[/b]
I believe you have missed the continious growth of Data fro m being a certified android to an almost Human android. Ofcourse masterfully portrait by Brent Spiner.

Or Worf's issue's with the Klingon Empire. I always loved the fact that one man and his family could have suck a profound impact. The political intruide in an honor bound society was quite interesting.

etc etc.

BoBW is also mainly about Picard

Spoiler:

He gets assimilated into the collective and the crew of the Enterprise has to rescue hime. (Though thats very a simplistic summary.) The sheer atmosphere in this episode is just awesome. As is the cliffhanger

As for best episodes ever, many Voyager episodes are so much better than any TNG episodes.  Year of Hell parts one and two, Futures End parts one and two, Meld, Scorpion parts one and two,  Shattered, Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy.  The list goes on.

I admit, the Year of Hell was pretty damned good weren't it for the sdamned temporal cop-out. Made the entire thing just friggin stupid.

Scorpion sucked plainly because the Borg are uber pussified. Hell, they even negotiate. With Janeway no friggin' less. Puh-****ing-lease. TNG had the only real Borg in for example 'Q Who?'. They just scooped entire outposts of the surface of planets. They DIDn'T negotiate. They weren't constantly defeated by a single Intrepid class cruiser whereas in TNG they needed dozens if not hundreds of ships to even destroy a single cube.

Seriously, Voyager ****s up the entire concept of the Borg. Continuity is also nowhere to be found.

- I like the Doctor but franbkly he's just a Data rip-off. An artificial life-form trying to be Human.
- 7of9 is just an elaborate version of 'Hugh' from 'I Borg' in TNG.
- Chakotay and his weird ass spirit guide things need to be shoved out of an airlock.
- Janeway is the most hypocritical person ever to have served in Starfleet. She always claims to want to follow the Prime Directive but then proceeds to violate it a dozen times over 2 seasons for no apparant reason.
- Neelix. I mean, WTF!? Ambassador to the Federation!? He doesn't even know what it it. Moral officer? Again: WTF!?
- Voyager magically manages to ward off entire species that seek to destroy Voyager. Including the Borg.

The only good character in Voyager was Tuvok. Just because he played a very believable Vulcan.

But thats enough rmabling from me