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TBP Base 3.0 and Earth-Minbari War released
I DL'd the new version and i think its great!!!! good job guys.

I do seem to have 1 problem though.

All stations, ships, everything in game appears as one solid colour
either blue or red. It appears to be whatever colour the light source is in game.

ive tried turning on and off pretty much all the options in the launcher with no affect. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I would really like to see what this mod looks like!!

 

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Intresting format for the ships.  What exactly is IBX format adn is there any programs I can view the files with?

I forget the actual format name, but to improve speed, FSO was altered to use an internal model format.  This unfortunately meant that all the models needed to be converted to the new format every time you loaded a mission, which took some time especially with hi-poly models.  Taylor created the ibx format which is a stored copy of this internal format which the game loads up, instead of having to convert each time.  The way to view and edit the models is to extract the pof files form the VP and use PCS, MODview, or Aurora.  If the models are changed and saved in the correct directory, the next time it is loaded, it'll make a new IBX file to correstond to the altered model.
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The IBX format is only used internally by the game. The real ship format is the .pof format you'll find inside the vp files when you look at them with VPView or QVP.

The IBX format is generated by FS2 for use by the game itself. Originally the IBXs were generated on the fly but for high poly models this can take upto a couple of minutes. For this reason IBXs are now cached on the HD instead.

There's no editor for IBXs nor is their likely to be one for a while since editing a pof will cause the IBX to automatically update next time the game is run.

EDIT : Damnit. Didn't notice there was another page and TP had already answered :)
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The IBX format is only used internally by the game. The real ship format is the .pof format you'll find inside the vp files when you look at them with VPView or QVP.

The IBX format is generated by FS2 for use by the game itself. Originally the IBXs were generated on the fly but for high poly models this can take upto a couple of minutes. For this reason IBXs are now cached on the HD instead.

There's no editor for IBXs nor is their likely to be one for a while since editing a pof will cause the IBX to automatically update next time the game is run.

EDIT : Damnit. Didn't notice there was another page and TP had already answered :)


Thanks.  Anwsers my question.:)

 

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Here are my thoughts after playing the EMW campaign and some of the stand alone missions. FWIW I've seen Babylon 5 only a few times, and so I'm not really too familiar with the plot or characters. This might color some of my judgment.

Pro
Beautiful models and effects -- even the asteroids in one of the stand alone missions look good
I love the radar -- I'd like to see that art brought straight over into regular FS2
The 'dark' look feels right
Great music
Good sound
Atmosphere is outstanding -- the pilot/command art is great, especially coupled with the voice acting in EMW campaign.
Cinematic quality of the EMW campaign is good -- but see the con below.

Con
Cap ship thrusters seem to have 'shadows' running through them
Weapons feel as if they haven't much oomph. The Terran pulse cannons seem to have a tiny energy reservoir. The target profile of many of the enemy vessels is quite small. Despite racking up the usual 20+ kills in regular FS2 missions, I hardly hit anything in these missions.
In the EMW convoy escort mission, one of the freighters was disabled. The bad guys ignored the disabled freighter, which naturally sat there and did nothing. I got full credit at mission end for saving all of the ships anyway.
The later missions of the EMW campaign feel more as if the player is a spectator than a participant. There isn't really anything to do, one might as well just fly out of enemy range and watch. Although I understand the EMW was supposed to be hopeless for Earth, I just didn't feel as if there was much point to the missions. It would be nice to introduce elements to these missions in which the player can actually have some effect - e.g. prevent the Minbari from disabling some of the distant warships so that they might escape, etc...


Thank you for all the work, this is a great job overall! Its great to see what the community can do with this engine. I look forward to your forthcoming campaign.
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The Earth Minbari War campaign is more of a demo campaign. To demonstrate what's achievable with TBP. I hope that the public will use what we have given them and come up with bigger better campaigns in the future.
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imo, (only a minor gripe, mind you) the thrusters on the cap ships don't look all that spectacular, perhaps if you recessed the actual thrusters a tad, and put the glow in the bottom of that recess :nod:
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Funny, earlier this morning I thought of checking the forum to see what was up but I forgot and now at 11:55pm i come here and oh dear god, this so made my day!
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COmapred to the first one I felt a real diffrence in play (and boy it was harder!) lol or is it juist me? Anyway I finished it finally though it took all afternoon, and have a few comments.

Engine glows on cap ships really off (I noticed it's a scp thing...

For some reason I kept losing the targets visually in dogfights cause of teh enviroments maps (got lost in the background, can this be due to colorblindness?). It wasn't servere but it was more like annoying.

Is the ehite start bugged or do I need to turn an option off? I'm havign a problem like I did with a Taylor build before, when I looked at a ship a transparent texture from it would fill my screen totally! This time I see a profile of the whitestart from bottom to top onthe left side of my screen and the ship itself is invisible. I think it's something enabled in the build and so far only happens when I plugged the whitestar in a mission I made just o see what the new one looks like.
Jas anyone else found this affectign them similarly? Card is ati all-in-wonder radeon 7200 32mb tv in-out

I tried to open the vp file but it crashed vp view? Can we add content by making folders like usual so it overrides? I want to plug the old one in and see if it still happens.

Lastly, you guys did a great job of updating the campaign. The ships looks great, the effects are great, and I totally look forward to future add-ons.

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Originally posted by Mushroomhead
I DL'd the new version and i think its great!!!! good job guys.

I do seem to have 1 problem though.

All stations, ships, everything in game appears as one solid colour
either blue or red. It appears to be whatever colour the light source is in game.

ive tried turning on and off pretty much all the options in the launcher with no affect. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I would really like to see what this mod looks like!!


:welcome: MushroomHead. i'm going to have a look at this.

(Cool, i greeted someone on their 1st post)

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NNOOOOO! 250 MEGS?! WHY?


    Uh . . . lots of new stuff maybe?

 

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lol.

 

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it's still to big. >_>
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 

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I know how you feel.  I'm on 56k and it's going to take a week or two worth of nighttime downloading to get it.

 

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i'm on 56k too, and my ***ing download stopped at 30MB
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 
I just found out about the Release 3 and am excited to download it mainly because it is the stand-alone version as I cannot find a copy of FS2 anywhere.

But I go to Fileplanet and it only has the 1st Release and I try to download off torrent but I don't understand how it works.

Is there another server that I can get it off that will support resumable download programs such as Getright?

 

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Use a download manager
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I can't find it on Fileplanet and I try downloading at Torrent and it gives a Torrent type file and its instantly downloaded the moment I click Ok.

What is with this?

 

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Fileplanet is a bit odd. I just went there and it said file not found. I tried a second time and it found it.

Just try again.

http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/3dactionplanet/hlp/hosted/babylon/TBP-Base-3_0.exe

That's the page
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But I'm on a 56k and I can't resume downloads with Fileplanet.