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Offline EAD_Agamemnon

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Was going through FS2 after modiifgying some TBLs and then the ETAC part came up...and that makes me want to ask:

Will ETAC be used or referred to in any way in future releases?
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Offline Woomeister

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Offline Kie99

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Will ETAK?
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Why bother? All the Shivans would have to say would be something like "Die, soft-skinned monkeys" anyway.
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Offline T-Man

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I dunno, it would be kind'a cool to have the Shivans tantalizing the player, breaking their concentration. psychological warfare, anyone? ;7

Failing that, there's the good old fashioned exchange of abusive language. :thepimp:
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Offline pyro-manic

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Nah. The wholepoint of the Shivans is we don't know what they're about. If you can talk to them, then the mystery is gone, as is their reputation. :no:
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Offline Woomeister

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Originally posted by High Max
Also, it would be nice if Inferno made cutscenes of something similar to Hall Fight in which we board a Shivan ship and it would be nice to penetrate deep within Shivan infested systems and discover more of their technology.:yes:


Get me someone who can do that kind of cutscene for free and your on :p

As for the Shivans its best to keep them a secret, if we made stuff up about them. Some of you won't agree with it, some of you will and some just won't care, at least this way there's no complaints :)

 

Offline Woomeister

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Due to the current filesize I doubt there'll be cutscenes, as cutscenes would make it over 300mb to download.

 

Offline Kie99

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Can the Gigas cause supernovas single handedly?  What can the Gargant do? :shaking:
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Can the Gigas cause supernovas single handedly?  What can the Gargant do? :shaking:


Nothing, the Gargant doesn't have subspace weapons :)

 

Offline Kie99

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Can the Gigas cause supernovas single handedly?
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Offline Woomeister

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Under the right conditions yes.

 

Offline T-Man

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Originally posted by Woomeister
Due to the current filesize I doubt there'll be cutscenes, as cutscenes would make it over 300mb to download.


Maybe you should have the cutscenes as a seperate download.

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Nothing, the Gargant doesn't have subspace weapons


Strange, I thought it always did. I remember some screens with it targeting a Banshee.

And speaking of which, sorry to say it, but what is the point of the Gargant even being in Inferno? If the Shivans had this ultimate vessel of pure power that no one can beat, then why are they sending the Gigas to attack us? Why send wave upon wave to try and destroy us, when the Gargant could do it all alone while the rest of the armada defends Shivan space. It makes so sense whatsoever.

Don't hurt me for saying this, but i'm starting to think that maybe the Gargant is a little too extreme for Inferno to be a good story.
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Offline Woomeister

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Originally posted by T-Man


Maybe you should have the cutscenes as a seperate download.

That still leaves a huge download.



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Strange, I thought it always did. I remember some screens with it targeting a Banshee.


The model has the ability to, but so far we don't plan on using it. It doesn't have the weapon in its tables right now.

 

Offline pyro-manic

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Originally posted by High Max


Good, it's nice to learn about what you are fighting and it's interesting to study another species. It would make the FS universe more exciting if we would learn more about what we are fighting. It's stupid and pointless to keep them a secret. How can you put a thumbs-down on something that is very interesting? It would actually increase the fun factor of Inferno if we learned some more stuff about the Shivans, like their motives and origins and their numbers and largest ship in existence. Also, it would be nice if Inferno made cutscenes of something similar to Hall Fight in which we board a Shivan ship and it would be nice to penetrate deep within Shivan infested systems and discover more of their technology.:yes:


OK - you've seen the film Predator, yes? Right, now watch it again, but add in a little bit at the start where it tells you all about the Predator, what it looks like, where it comes from, how it hunts etc. Not nearly so tense and scary now, is it?

The whole point of the Shivans is that they're an enigma. They're like a horror-movie monster. If you tell the player all about them, they instantly become un-scary and tame, and that wrecks the whole concept.

You remember the first time you saw the Sathanas? When it appears out of nowhere and blows a corvette away in about 3 seconds? You remember that feeling? That's why we don't know anything about the Shivans. If you'd gone into that mission after a briefing that said "Oh, by the way, the Shivans have this f**kin' huge supership that they're probably going to use this mission. It looks like this:...." then it would have been about as fun as watching daytime television.
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Offline -Norbert-

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by T-Man
And speaking of which, sorry to say it, but what is the point of the Gargant even being in Inferno? If the Shivans had this ultimate vessel of pure power that no one can beat, then why are they sending the Gigas to attack us? Why send wave upon wave to try and destroy us, when the Gargant could do it all alone while the rest of the armada defends Shivan space. It makes so sense whatsoever.


You could also ask, why did they attack Vasuda with the Lucifer and not with their 80 Sathanas.

Maybe it wasn't finished when they send their smaller ships.
And if the smaller ones are enough, then why bother to send your absolute biggest ship there, which probably flys slower and thus needs far more time to get there and back?
Or maybe they had no enemy since they build their new ships and wanted to test their effectivity in battle.
Or maybe they enjoy a good and quite fair fight from time to time rather than just blowing every opponent out of the sky with the first salvo.
ect, ect

And the best reason:
Imagine they would do so.
First mission:
You fly a quiet patrol when a gigantic ships warps in and destroyes everything and everyone.
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Fun isn't it?
« Last Edit: January 30, 2005, 03:24:36 pm by 1400 »

 

Offline Krusi

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Thats right!:yes:  No ETAC is better.

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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Originally posted by -Norbert-


You could also ask, why did they attack Vasuda with the Lucifer and not with their 80 Sathanas.

Maybe it wasn't finished when they send their smaller ships.
And if the smaller ones are enough, then why bother to send your absolute biggest ship there, which probably flys slower and thus needs far more time to get there and back?
Or maybe they had no enemy since they build their new ships and wanted to test their effectivity in battle.
Or maybe they enjoy a good and quite fair fight from time to time rather than just blowing every opponent out of the sky with the first salvo.
ect, ect

I prefer to believe, that any points where GTVA space and Shivan space connect, are in the very fringes of Shivan space, and as such, it takes some time for the Shivans to amass their bigger, deadlier weapons, and get them into the engagement.
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