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A question about Ship Flags
What do the "capital", "Big Damage", and "Supercap" flags mean?
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A question about Ship Flags
"capital" says it's a cap ship. "supercap" says it's a juggernaut, etc. i'm not sure about the "big damage" though.
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...You don't need flags to tell it's a Capship or Juggernaut.

Do they have any effect on the damage Anti-Capship bombs will do to them?
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
...You don't need flags to tell it's a Capship or Juggernaut.


well, actually, i have some experience with flags.

usually, the "capital" and "supercap" flags tell the game which subspace sfx to use. it's also good for the techroom, so when you have a capship, if you have the "fighter" in techroom database (or whatever), it'll zoom out to where it's hard to see. if you put the "supercap" in techroom database for a Colossus, it would be at the perfect zoom.
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Ah, you're right. Thanks.

Now what about the damage?
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Offline Cobra

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don't ask me. :D

i'm trying to figure that out myself, actually.

[EDIT] i THINK "Big Damage" is given to corvetees and up since they have more than 2 anti-capship and anti-fighter beams.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2005, 03:24:12 pm by 2299 »
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A question about Ship Flags
Capital and SuperCap affect the AI and generally how the ship is treated in-game.

Big Damage means fighters can't bring the hull below 20% or something.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2005, 03:27:12 pm by 158 »
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We're both right, then. :D
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Carl

Big Damage means fighters can't bring the hull below 20% or something.


IIRC it means weapons without the 'huge' (or something like that...) flag can't damage the hull under 20%.

I have a feeling the ship-type flags are used for the AI, both in terms of how the ship flies, and also how other ships target / prioritise targeting it.

 

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:nod: i think he's got it.
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The Reason I ask is because A Harbinger bomb is only supposed to do 3200 (3.2%) to an Orion, yet it does variable damage ranging from 4% to 6% to an Orion ingame. I'm trying to figure out why.
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It depends on how fast it's going.
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Offline Mad Bomber

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Err, for the record, Big Damage protects at 10%, not 20.

(Many a Moloch survived the main campaign for that reason alone.) :mad2:
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It depends on how fast it's going.


Eh? How fast it's going?
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:wtf: then why do I deal at least 10-15%+ damage.
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Offline FireCrack

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so if you start poinding a molocch with a subach you can get it down to 10% but no further?


What about supercap, do weapons need this flag to hurt supercaps, i cant kill a sath with helios's at all.
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Grimloq

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i thought Big Damage made it possible to be targeted by beams...? you don't see Collosus taking out bomber wings with beams often, do you?
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Offline WMCoolmon

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Big damage does...absolutely nothing. Except that any ship with it will only have 5% damage dealt by flak.

capital and supercap flags basically make a ship targettable by big weapons (ie heavy beams).
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What about the bonus damage? I still haven't gotten a clear answer as to why the Bombs deal more damage than they should...I'm not sure what Carl meant...
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Offline WMCoolmon

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Looks like damage depends on the hull strength of the object being hit.

On a side note, shiphit.cpp is a very interesting file. Especially the bottom of it. :D
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