[Jetmech Jr.]

What do the "capital", "Big Damage", and "Supercap" flags mean?

[Cobra]

"capital" says it's a cap ship. "supercap" says it's a juggernaut, etc. i'm not sure about the "big damage" though.

[Jetmech Jr.]

...You don't need flags to tell it's a Capship or Juggernaut.

Do they have any effect on the damage Anti-Capship bombs will do to them?

[Cobra]

Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
...You don't need flags to tell it's a Capship or Juggernaut.

well, actually, i have some experience with flags.

usually, the "capital" and "supercap" flags tell the game which subspace sfx to use. it's also good for the techroom, so when you have a capship, if you have the "fighter" in techroom database (or whatever), it'll zoom out to where it's hard to see. if you put the "supercap" in techroom database for a Colossus, it would be at the perfect zoom.

[Jetmech Jr.]

Ah, you're right. Thanks.

Now what about the damage?

[Cobra]

don't ask me.

i'm trying to figure that out myself, actually.

[EDIT] i THINK "Big Damage" is given to corvetees and up since they have more than 2 anti-capship and anti-fighter beams.

[Carl]

Capital and SuperCap affect the AI and generally how the ship is treated in-game.

Big Damage means fighters can't bring the hull below 20% or something.

[Cobra]

We're both right, then.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Carl

Big Damage means fighters can't bring the hull below 20% or something.

IIRC it means weapons without the 'huge' (or something like that...) flag can't damage the hull under 20%.

I have a feeling the ship-type flags are used for the AI, both in terms of how the ship flies, and also how other ships target / prioritise targeting it.

[Cobra]

i think he's got it.

[Jetmech Jr.]

The Reason I ask is because A Harbinger bomb is only supposed to do 3200 (3.2%) to an Orion, yet it does variable damage ranging from 4% to 6% to an Orion ingame. I'm trying to figure out why.

[Carl]

It depends on how fast it's going.

[Mad Bomber]

Err, for the record, Big Damage protects at 10%, not 20.

(Many a Moloch survived the main campaign for that reason alone.)

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by Carl
It depends on how fast it's going.

Eh? How fast it's going?

[Cobra]

then why do I deal at least 10-15%+ damage.

[FireCrack]

so if you start poinding a molocch with a subach you can get it down to 10% but no further?


What about supercap, do weapons need this flag to hurt supercaps, i cant kill a sath with helios's at all.

[Grimloq]

i thought Big Damage made it possible to be targeted by beams...? you don't see Collosus taking out bomber wings with beams often, do you?

[WMCoolmon]

Big damage does...absolutely nothing. Except that any ship with it will only have 5% damage dealt by flak.

capital and supercap flags basically make a ship targettable by big weapons (ie heavy beams).

[Jetmech Jr.]

What about the bonus damage? I still haven't gotten a clear answer as to why the Bombs deal more damage than they should...I'm not sure what Carl meant...

[WMCoolmon]

Looks like damage depends on the hull strength of the object being hit.

On a side note, shiphit.cpp is a very interesting file. Especially the bottom of it.