Originally posted by Mongoose
I had no idea about the legitimacy of the 30-year claim; I was just throwing it out there as something I had heard about. If that really is the only evidence, then I'll agree that it's not too much more than speculation. I also think that a lot of people mistook the meaning behind my post. I'm by no means saying that global warming is a myth, or that there's no evidence to support it other than what the hurricane season can show. What I am saying is that one or two hurricane seasons with higher-than-normal activity cannot immediately be taken as an indicator for how prevalent global warming is. It's simply not enough data.
About the "ten years being too late" claim: I hate to say it, but even if the human race were to completely cease all CO2 production as of this moment, the global temperature would still continue to climb due to what's already in the atmosphere. In that respect, finding a correlation after ten years wouldn't really make that much of a difference.
Um... the whole point is stopping would be to prevent an irreversible (in our lifetimes) climatic change. I believe it's been predicted that could occur within 10-15 years, even assuming other contributing events (release of gas from frozen peat) don't happen.
Besides which, what you're implying is that it's not even worth bothering taking precautions or considering it, because we're all doomed anyway. Which, to me, is a mite daft and short-sighted.
Oh, and Wilma from space (ISS)

Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
i have an uneducated guess........
The earth's climate has always been somewhat fragile. i do believe that global warming happens, but not that ti alone can account for what we are seeing. Remember last december? the earth took such a hit (earthquake) that we now wobble? Has anyone considered the possibility that the wobble could partiallyaccount for some of this? it would seem to me that ANY shift in the earth's tilt would raise some havoc with weather patterns, and when we couple this with global warming....we see the kinds of killer storms that we are seeing now.
Not really even a guess, but something worth thinking about.
We don't wobble. The earth wobbl
ed; about 2.5-6cm. But this impact (I think lengthening a day by about 3 millionths of a second) would be pretty swiftly overridden by the tidal effects of the moon.
Also, the Earth has a natural wobble owing to it's tilt (trying to 'right' itself), and also the 'Chandler wobble', which occurs as the earth is not rotating around it's centre of inertia. AFAIK the Chandler wobble also is affected by inputs of energy like asteroid impact or quake.
So the tsunami quake is scarcely a unique event and, AFAIK, none of these wobbles has even been linked to climatological change (particularly in the case of warming the planet, and especially with regards to the known causes of a greenhouse effect).