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Offline Bobboau

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Re: More proof of evolution
he's just going to show up a month from now not comenting on any of this crap, he needs to find a way to get a cuple of hours free were he can actualy engauge in this discusion, rather than just snipeing at it intermitently.
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I know.  I try not to let it piss me off, in the hope that Joe Public will read this thread and maybe learn something, but I'm only human and it is very frustrating to see this sort of damaging stuff existing in the modern day.

 

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I know.  I try not to let it piss me off, in the hope that Joe Public will read this thread and maybe learn something, but I'm only human and it is very frustrating to see this sort of damaging stuff existing in the modern day.
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I stopped debating simply because there was nothing to debate, a debate requires evidence on both sides, not just one side saying 'You haven't got every last single mote of detail yet, therefore our argument is right by default.'.

 
Re: More proof of evolution
There really is no point replying to M. He has consistently ignored every single rebuttle to his Hovind rip off arguments. Anything you say will just be either ignored completley or just hand waved away without a second thought to be replaced with an equally ignorent question. Most of all he knows nothing about the subject that he is arguing against, so not only are you trying to correct his argument you also know he doesnt understand what you're talking about. You cant give someone an education on a messge board especialy if they dont want to learn anything. Thats what professional Creationists pander to, the ignorent impressionable population. As Intelligent Design supporter in Dover Pastor Ray Mummert accurately put it, "We’ve been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture.”  Yes, I agree with Ray.
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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Re: More proof of evolution
Not a proof of evolution, but I stumbled into this news article that's related to teaching evolution in classes.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/02/kansasevolution.ap/index.html

 

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"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Kamikaze

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Re: More proof of evolution
Just found this on Reddit and thought it might be of interest:

Why the Second Law of Thermodynamics Doesn't Prohibit Entropy Decrease in a Closed System
Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers in the preceding generation . . .Learn from science that you must doubt the experts. As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - Richard Feynman

 

Offline watsisname

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Huh, that's pretty interesting. :)  I'll definitely need to show that to my Physics professor and see what he says about that.

I've had some discussions related to this with a couple creationists before, and it's depressing because I've asked them to prove that they understand the law (by explaining how a refrigerator works, or something), and they can't even give a proper answer.  I find it sickening when someone tries to make an arguement against something they dont understand, using physics which they don't understand either. :doubt:
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Offline Mathwiz6

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What that actually says is "second law of thermodynamics doesn't prohibit entropy decrease, but entropy decrease is pretty improbable on a large scale"

I just remember a thing on quantum physics I saw "It's possible (albeit very improbable) that all the air in this room could move to the four corners, and leave us in a vacuum."

 

Offline Kosh

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What that actually says is "second law of thermodynamics doesn't prohibit entropy decrease, but entropy decrease is pretty improbable on a large scale"

I just remember a thing on quantum physics I saw "It's possible (albeit very improbable) that all the air in this room could move to the four corners, and leave us in a vacuum."


Then again the probability of that happening is so small it might as well be impossible.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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That's not even quantum physics. It's simple gas kinetics actually. All atoms of a gas are constantly in motion. If by chance they all happened to move away from a single point then that point would be in a vacuum.

Quantum physics it the one responsible for explaining why the parts of me don't suddenly do the the same thing :D
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Offline Mathwiz6

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Meh, I read it in "In search of Schrodinger's cat"

It was something to do with improbability.....

And now I understand antimatter!

Haha, it would be funny to say to my friends "look, there's a vacuum.... there!" "where?" "whoops, it's gone now..." "whaaaa?"
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Offline Bobboau

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this of course totaly ignores the fact that thermodynamics has absolutely nothing to do with evolution.
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Re: More proof of evolution
Eat linkies.
www.answersingenesis.org

this next one i found interesting
www.icr.org

(does this link not work for you guys or is it just me?)
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Offline Lt.Cannonfodder

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Re: More proof of evolution
From ICR frontpage:

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We believe God has raised up ICR to spearhead Biblical Christianity's defense against the godless and compromising dogma of evolutionary humanism.
Why? Why do these people have to feel that science is in some way threat to their religion?

  

Offline Mefustae

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Eat linkies.
www.answersingenesis.org

this next one i found interesting
www.icr.org

(does this link not work for you guys or is it just me?)
www.creationresearchsociety.org
Do you even read what you post? Seriously now. You can tell us.

 

Offline Bobboau

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oh, god...
"hey I know I'm going to just post links to three of the most discredited websites on the internet that have been singled out by name a couple dozen times in this thread as being BS pits"

I mean gotam... at least the other guys put forth the effort to link to something on those sites.
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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looking at Charismatic's links makes me ROFLCOPTER
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