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Offline TrashMan

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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
Evangelion overrated?

Depends how you look at it.... it had a good comedy factor and some cool battles, but if you're looking for more than that you're in the wrong place.
Of course, that's my view of it..all tha psycho s*** killed it totaly...actually it started to die even before that, but that was the final nail in the coffin.

2D charachters in  anime? Hell, anime charachters have usually more depth that half the charachters from the latest block-busters of teen shows or anything that comes of out Holywood in general!

Of course, the lowest by-products of anime are utterly awfull, and they are in 90% of cases made for comedy, but you can't judge only by those.
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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
Anime "shares"??

Anime is a shortened form of the Japanese for 'animation'.

I believe 'almost all animation shares' is a valid phrase, if that's what you're referring to.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2006, 01:56:08 pm by aldo_14 »

 

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Anime is a shortened form of the Japanese for 'animation'.
Anime is the stupidest word ever. It should be destroyed.

 

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Anime is the stupidest word ever. It should be destroyed.

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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
Evangelion overrated?

Depends how you look at it.... it had a good comedy factor and some cool battles, but if you're looking for more than that you're in the wrong place only if you are unable to understand /or/ are too young to know the basic human psychology and the fundamental aspects of three or more religions.


I added the bold part to make your statement true.

 

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Whatever you may think of it, I think we can all agree the art-style is pretty damned fine...


 

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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
blah blah bla blah bleh bla blah blah blabydy blah Serial Experiments Lain.

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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
Yeah, that was about my reaction first time I watched it. I think I'm desensitized now.
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I gave up on NGE when I found out an Eva could only run for about 5 minutes without an external power source. So, that was...years before I even saw an episode.

This is true, an Eva can even't fly and can't really match another robots specs from another series (except for the Eva 01 with wings), not only that but they aren't really mechanical, so they go more into "fantasy" section...

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Eva is pretty trippy, but if you really want something that makes absolutely zero sense, watch Serial Experiments Lain. I own the DVDs, I've watched the whole thing upwards of ten times...I still don't get it.

Yes, Lain reputation comes from this exact point, "can you understand Shin Seiki Evangelion story?, then see Serial Experiments Lain, and tell me..."
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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
This is true, an Eva can even't fly and can't really match another robots specs from another series (except for the Eva 01 with wings), not only that but they aren't really mechanical, so they go more into "fantasy" section...
I'm not sure why exactly, but this paragraph makes me want to cockpunch you.
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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
The best thing in the movie:
Rei Ayanami :)

She's somehow cute, isn't she?

 

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you know that both she and the evas are basicly Shinji's mother, right?

adds a whole new layer of fuct don't it?
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I gave up on NGE when I found out an Eva could only run for about 5 minutes without an external power source. So, that was...years before I even saw an episode.

This is true, an Eva can even't fly and can't really match another robots specs from another series (except for the Eva 01 with wings), not only that but they aren't really mechanical, so they go more into "fantasy" section...
But you see, Evas don't need to fly. They're basically invincible because of their AT fields and can only be hurt by other Evas or Angels (AFAIK). They have the 5 minute battery life for this reason. I'm pretty sure they could have designed them to run off of nuclear power or something like that but instead gave them the dependence on external power so that if things really hit the fan they could only cause 5 minutes worth of devastation.
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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
Evangelion overrated?

Depends how you look at it.... it had a good comedy factor and some cool battles, but if you're looking for more than that you're in the wrong place.
Of course, that's my view of it..all tha psycho s*** killed it totaly...actually it started to die even before that, but that was the final nail in the coffin.

I have all of those prequesits and I still think it's pretty poop.

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2D charachters in  anime? Hell, anime charachters have usually more depth that half the charachters from the latest block-busters of teen shows or anything that comes of out Holywood in general!

Why is the automatic argument for most people in favor of anime is "Well Hollywood is worse" - so what? Does something else being worse somehow make the other one not bad? That's like saying that Bang! Gunship Elite wasn't bad because Daikatana was worse. It doesn't hide the fact that 99.9% of anime characters have no personality.
Not only that, but a lot of American cinema still has better characters anyway. Now, I'm not saying that all anime is bad or with 2D characters (Macross, the original Gundam, Ghost in the Shell, Evanglion, etc), but a lot of them are. And anime makers nowadays don't seem to grasp that; a lot of people's idea of an "innovative" and "incredible" anime are ones with storylines so complex and wrapped up in themselves that it's impossible to understand - not with good characters or what not, just a convoluted storyline (a good example being Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex - although the characters are good, take a look at the last episode in the series, it falls victim to the Matrix's "Evil Colonel Sanders" routine and spends most of the time with high handed blabbering).

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Of course, the lowest by-products of anime are utterly awfull, and they are in 90% of cases made for comedy, but you can't judge only by those.

But you're judging by the big 80% of American cinema that's throw-away one shot trash, why can't I do the same with the 90% of anime? I'm not trying to turn this into an America vs. anything, I'm just using Hollywood as an example because, with possibly the exception of Bollywood (in India) and anime, it is one the largest producer of visual entertainment in the world. Anyway, a lot of anime is trash, which is why when something like Evanglion comes along, they hold it so high up on a pedestal - because they don't have anything else to compare it to.A comparable example would be Halo 1 on the Xbox: Xbox magazines ranted and raved about it, because they had no other good FPSs for the Xbox to compare it to. Once Halo 1 came to the PC though, it was pretty much forgotten, because we have better things to compare it to and play.

 
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I gave up on NGE when I found out an Eva could only run for about 5 minutes without an external power source. So, that was...years before I even saw an episode.

This is true, an Eva can even't fly and can't really match another robots specs from another series (except for the Eva 01 with wings), not only that but they aren't really mechanical, so they go more into "fantasy" section...
But you see, Evas don't need to fly. They're basically invincible because of their AT fields and can only be hurt by other Evas or Angels (AFAIK). They have the 5 minute battery life for this reason. I'm pretty sure they could have designed them to run off of nuclear power or something like that but instead gave them the dependence on external power so that if things really hit the fan they could only cause 5 minutes worth of devastation.

AFAIK, AT field generation isn't linked to battery life and secondly, as brought up in ep 7, putting a nuclear reactor on something that is mainly used for hand-to-hand combat isn't a good idea.  Ep 6 and Ep 22 show that a AT-field can be brought down by either a positron rifle powered by the entirety of Japan, or the Lance of Longinus.

Anyway, those of you that havn't yet, go watch End of Evangelion and forget about Death and Rebirth.

As for the 5 min limit, it is shown that on 4 seperate occasions EVA has moved without a active power supply and 5 mins is more than enough time to total nearly all of NERV hq.
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Random question, did you guys watch the dubbed version or the japanese with subtitles?
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No, but it's a problem that almost all anime shares. Just because other media has the problem doesn't make it any less true that 99% of anime has horrible characters and cookie-cutter storylines.
That's a really horrible generalisation/opinion :)

 

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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
Evangelion was a great anime, even if it was horribly flawed. The whole plot was crap, even if Anno's direction made the imagery absolutely stunning (which is the real reason people think the plot is much better than it really is), but sometimes Anno just ignored the plot and just concentrated on delving into the souls of the main characters. Even then it failed to say some of things it could have and should have said, but what Evangelion did say still makes it one of the most honestly moving pieces of art I have ever seen.

It seems like me and http://www.abcb.com/eva/essay_02.htm<-this guy are the only people that think that the original ending was the better one.
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Re: I just saw the last episode of Evangelion...
Granted - a lot of animes have bad storyline or bad charachters, but some peopel are just over-generalizing.

It's like saying "every movie to come out of holywood is crap!".

I'm rather picky when it comes to anime, so the ones I watched fully are usually the best ones, alltough I have seen snippets and episodes of lots of leser quality ones.. Still, I think that a conclusion for 2D charachters is not valid.
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