[AlphaOne]

Oki the title is pretty obvious. I wuld like if posible to reimagine the way ships would look in fs universe and theyr uses if the shivans would not of blasted the GTVA also GTA/PVN but rather helped them.

I know this is somewhat strange since it kinda of beats the whole storry but rather a "what if" posibilaty!

[aldo_14]

Spikier.

[AlphaOne]

lool aldo! its not that simple. Well we would of had the sol node opened all this time and by the time Fs2 timeline 2367 i mean what would the direction of weaponry tech regarding weapons and subspace tech would of been. Since then the terrans would of had full acces to what 90% of theyr economical,industrial reaseaerch and development and so on and so forth capabilities. I mnea we have see how far they have gone in just 30+ years which time they also rebuilt theyr worlds so to speak. I mean we could see the GTVA streched all the way past the nebula and the second and third knossos.

Yah i know without the shivans there would of been no GTVA but nonetheless lets put that aside.

Also i would suspect the GTVA would of had beam weapons comparable in power to the shivan ones since welll how shall i put it theyre that good at stealing and adapting tech.

[aldo_14]

If the Shivans were that benevolent, they probably would have not developed beam weaponry.  Nor would the Ancients have been destroyed, so instead the GTA would have been annihilated by them thousands of years ago, and the Vasudans would probably be a slave race.

[Colonol Dekker]

Heres an idea what if everyone in the universe was hippy'esqe and shared love and all that jazz. But made big guns anyway to shoot 'roids for fun
( out of nowhere ponders if the collossus could whoop unicron)

[AlphaOne]

hmm got it i never said they were one big happy famili but rather what if the shivans hadent attacked the GTVA GTA PVN but rather took them under theyr wing. Hell no what be a slave race for the ancients blast them ....! i just wanted a imagination exercise ! oh well mi mistake!

[Colonol Dekker]

Another imagination excersise, What if the Aincents are an offshoot of the shivans or vice-versa. But i digress, I reckon if the shivans "nursed" us for a while before going on their merry red glowing way. We would be either hard as a diamond coated nail dipped in Uber-Poison!!  Or.... So dependant on Shivan hand outs that we'de fade into a self defeating stupor.

Either way it would make for good TV.

[AlphaOne]

say what?? why?? i mean i can see any posible reason for us depending so heavely on the shivans other then say some tech and stuff...

[Colonol Dekker]

I reckon, as do most i believe that thew shivans are a collective or hive based society if not a shared conciousness, theyd probably imbue/instill it upon us as weel (Imagination exercise rember ) ANyhoo thats my take, Its not the only take anyone fel free to add/comment/resuggest....
A humble opinion is given.

[AlphaOne]

well it wont exactly work because neither terrans nor vasudans are capable of a hive mind so to speak. Also i would imagine the architecture of the ships as well as the overall pourpose of the ships would change some what with the more ofensive attitude beeing transfered but i do believe that they will still be a lot more balanced then theyr shivan counterparts.


OffTopic: Ineed a ship by ship description of every ship in the game cap ships that is. I mean wht kind of weapos thy have how many and what are theyr enplacement on the ship itself. could someone help. I cant seem to find something this detailed.

[pecenipicek]

run, the grammar inquisition will eatchoo!!!111 

[Colonol Dekker]

ALPHAONE, Just rip open ships.tbl .. Its all in there.

[aldo_14]

OffTopic: Ineed a ship by ship description of every ship in the game cap ships that is. I mean wht kind of weapos thy have how many and what are theyr enplacement on the ship itself. could someone help. I cant seem to find something this detailed.

Wiki.

[AlphaOne]

Tried it didnt find it detailed enough. Or has the wiki been updated? I remember seeing a topic regarding the wiki which sai something about it beeing moved. and updated.

[aldo_14]

When was the last time you looked?

[AlphaOne]

well i'm looking in wiki right now and unless im looking a totaly diferent wiki then it does not hold the info i need!

[aldo_14]

Well, you'll just have to grab out modelview, ships.tbl, and add it in there, won't you?

[Wanderer]

Check this wiki page.. or rather the links on that page.

[Unknown Target]

Alpha's posts are always so...amusing.

[AlphaOne]

well  that did it thanx!

Also how strong would the vasudan design influence be in the era where shivans orrather let say terrans and vasudans borrow design features and suff from the shivans.

I mnea there is clearly a strong influnce in ship design regarding terran crafts from the vasudans.

I peronally prefered tho old teran design features you know the ones we see in the herc I and the Orion.

Also do we have in fs a ship that is the equivalent of of an attack submarine or a balistic submarine. a ship that can actualy lay low undetected then storm out fire a couple of heliosses or  beams or something like that take out the enemy warship then make a speaddy exit?

Such a ship wouldnt actualy be involved in the kind of fighting we normaly see cuz it would get thorn to shreads really fast.