[Sarafan]

I'm currently playing the main fs2 campaign (again), when I noticied something in the debriefing of the mission ...But hate the traitor. In it comand said they knew of your imediate execution as a traitor to the NTF since they were suspecting you and Snipes and also said that his location and possible whereabouts where unkonw. Later in the mission in the EMP nebula, you see that Snipes stayed with the NTF, but how could he have done that? He was also a suspect so my guess is that he betrayed you (he may have told NTF comand that you were the agent that caused the destruction of the Sunder and the Vasudan ambush) so that his position in the NTF would be more secure and he also said later that information is what keeps you alive in this business.

So, what do you think?


Yes, it could be said that this a crazy conspiracy theory, but bear in mind that it's my first post.

[[DW]-Hunter]

remember he is in the special ops of the loop2 missions. i believe he too was relieved from the ntf at the same time.

[Sarafan]

I dont know, when you rescue him later in the nebula he was in a ntf transport, so its likely that he participated in ntf trhust to the knosso portal.

[karajorma]

Interesting point Sarafan. I'd never really thought about it but you know something it gives a whole new meaning to this line if you're correct.

Good work, Alpha 1. Most pilots only get to fly one suicide mission. We survived what should've been our last sortie.

If you're correct that could easily be a comment from Snipes about surviving not just Lions Den but also ...But Hate The Traitor

Personally I think the NTF must have decided that you were the traitor who gave away their position to the GTVA in the first two loop missions. Since they don't know the Sunder survived they'd have no real reason to believe that Snipes was in on it. That said you could be right.

[Mars]

Plus there were more "of us" in the Argo in As Lightening Fall, which may indicate the NTC Alexandria was SOC controled for a while, even if the crew didn't know it.

[Sarafan]

This also reminds me of the ''sudden'' power failure the Colossus suffered due to the actions of NTF spies aboard, maybe Snipes was responsible for getting them aboard the ship (since he's SOC, it wouldnt be difficult), if so I guess it's possible he's been playing on both sides.

I agree with what you said, Mars, it's more likely that the crew of the Alexandria really didnt knew, and in that mission he also says that only 17 people made it to the transport so those survivors are most likely the comand staff of the ship since it would be impratical for the SOC to infiltrate the whole crew of the cruiser.

[Mars]

I think the Colossus was sabatouged by GTVA operatives to be honest. I'll put that in my theory of Freespace, but that won't get written until I have >1 hour of free time at a time (6/5/06). I think the best part about Freespace is that it was never fully explained, so there's all these theories floating around, come to think of it, that's what I love about real life to.

[Sarafan]

Yeah, one of the best things in fs is that its open ended (and the beam cannons ).

[Mars]

And to think FS3 could have killed it all... anyhow.

I think Snipes represented what a logical person ends up doing in the GTVA, try to stay alive, fight for humanity, and never belive a word Command says.

[Sarafan]

Arguably, it could be said that Bosch did exactly that. Another question, were the 99th Skulls an SOC squadron?

[Mars]

Most definitely, they flew classified ships, helped in a classified mission, and worked closely with Snipes.

[Sarafan]

I was thinking they were something more like the 70th Blue Lions.

[Mars]

Blue Lions was an "elite" wing, meaning command would send them on missions that HAD to get done, like escorting the Bastion. SOC wings specialize in deep strikes, recon, that sort of thing.

[Sarafan]

That sparked my curiosity, what would be the fleet strenght of the SOC? Possibly a destroyer with good C&C capabilities(Hecate), a couple of corvettes and Aelous cruisers but not much so there wouldnt be another GTI.

[Mars]

Well, you can assume the GTCv Naxos was a SOC corvette, but that's a leap of faith. No one knows where the Skulls are based, or where the Mara's were launched from. Snipes refers to a "Recovery Craft" but that could be anything from an Argo to a Hecate.

[Sarafan]

The recovery craft would be more likely an Argo since that's one of its roles, nothing as big as a destroyer and since the Skulls have to be based somewhere, a destroyer would be the best guess unless they have something like a Moloch.

[Mars]

I really don't think the ships in the game are supposed to be all of the alliences ships. For instance, the GTFR Chronos was removed, but the TAC 1 wasn't, even though the Chronos was the only thing that could (efficently) carry it.

[Sarafan]

Chronos? From what mission is that ship? It's really been a awhile since I played the main campaign.

[aldo_14]

Chronos? From what mission is that ship? It's really been a awhile since I played the main campaign.

It's in FS1 a fair bit, i think; it also doubles as the big Amazon drone (white one), and is seen carrying cargo to the Colossus in its 'building' cutscene.

[Mars]

No, that was a real Chronos in the Colossus cutscene, not an Amazon.