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Offline Snail

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
Actually it's the Shivan's weapons that suck...

 
Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
Uhh, Shivan fighters are designed to be subpar compared to Terran/Vasudan fighters otherwise the game wouldn't as fun. What fun would it be if your wingmen were killed on the first or second wings? It can probably be assumed the Terran/Vasudan pilots are better trained and probably have experience from the war with the NTF.

 

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
Actually it's the Shivan's weapons that suck...

Give the Shivans Kaysers and stuff and see what happens... Hmmm...

 
Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
Actually it's the Shivan's weapons that suck...

Give the Shivans Kaysers and stuff and see what happens... Hmmm...

Well they get Trebs, Hornets and Harpoons just like the GTVA does, if I had to give them Kaysers (which is GTVA making improvements from their laster) that would mean Shivan technology isn't so advanced that it's beyond the GTVA's ability to assimilate and adapt.

 
Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
What is the Shivan's most powerful primary laser anyways?

 

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
Shivan Mega Laser, which sucks ass as it wasn't touched since FS1.

 

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
If you want to give shivans kaysers and other GTVA tech then give the GTVA BFReds ans advanced subspace tech to equal the odds!
Die shivan die!!
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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
thats easy. but its still easier than the NTF.

Burn the sucker out of the sky!
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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
thats easy. but its still easier than the NTF.

I'm lost, what's easier than the NTF?

 

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
I got lost 3 or 4 post back.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
even with GTVA tech, the shivans are still easier too beat than the NTF.

Burn the sucker out of the sky!
EAT PHOTONS INFIDEL! MAY THE HEAT OF A THOUSAND SUNS CONSUME YOU! :mad2:


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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
even with GTVA tech, the shivans are still easier to beat than the NTF.


Fixed.Too is used at the very end of a sentence.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
The shivans may be weak in defensive positions but they excell in ofensive capabilaties as long as no fighter/bommbers are involved cuz once you enter them into the equation then the shivans tend to lose badly! I mean you just have to send bommbers to defand the heavy hitters of the fleet then just warp in the big ships and rip the shivan ships to pieces!
Die shivan die!!
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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
The Subach HL-7 is more effective than the Shivan mega Laser IMO.

 
Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
The Subach HL-7 is more effective than the Shivan mega Laser IMO.

I still wouldn't try to go head-to-head against a Seraphim armed Megas or even Heavys.

What the GTVA needs to try and do is either replicate the power and rate of fire the Shivan beams have, or greatly improving the range of their beam weaponry so they can effectively act as artillery (thus perhaps making TAG missiles worth using in a nebula).

The problem is the Shivans always have at least 1 or 2 escort wings for their warships with backups if necessary.  Shivans are also better at subspace jumping, so you'd have to disarm AND disable their vessels.  Add to that the fact that they just throw something bigger at you when you kill them (kill a cruiser, they send in several more, kill those and its 1 or 2 corvettes + fighters, mess those up and they call in a destroyer and lots more fighters, take that out then a juggernaut comes after you...) so they whittle you down via attrition.

Point is, Shivans excel at offense no matter what in the end.  Any serious assaults they do, the GTVA always gets forced to retreat.  On defense they are weak, but the fact remains that counterattacks are still attacks.

 

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
They don't care about defense. They just attack when they try to defend.

 

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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
:yes:

True. So true. They have an immense fleet...who cares about defense? :)

 

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I wonder what would the Shivans do if somebody managed to make some kind of super-jump (hmmm, Sync ?) and a Fleet would end up near their space station/homeworld/whatever. They would be pretty damn confused what to do. Of course they can all live solely on ships and this post won't make any sense then...
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Re: GTVA Colossus VS SJ Sathanas
I don't think they have a homeworld... A spacestation, maybe...

 

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An immense spacestation.