[BengalTiger]

Shivans!

[Stormkeeper]

Shivans!

QFT!!

[ShivanEmperor]

I am coming closer and closer to having the script for the fan fic ready. So far we are still a bit unable to clear things up around shields. Here is some more info you can debate on...

A SW vs ST (Star Trek) fan named Lord Poe (Or many other names to do with "Poe") make an excellent and funny series with "The Movies" game called "The Last Bastion". It was set in the time after the Sovereign-class ship (Capatain Picard's Enterprise in "Nemesis" and "First Contact") was built. Due to real world calculations and hours of techno babble (As you might call it) it was confirmed through the SW Attack of the Clones incredible cross sections and the techno babble in the TNG (The Next Generation) series that SW ships clearly serpassed Star Trek ships. The Last Bastion detailed how much damage a single low powerred light turbo laser shot can do to the most advanced ship in all of Starfleet. 1/4 of the Sorverign was destroyed. And that was only a light turbo laser shot. Now, the ST universe is in a very similar time peroid as FS. This fact implies that weaponry might be very similar in strength, along with shields. Speaking of shields... In The Last Bastion, several ST ships were engaging an ISD. The ISD shields were not damaged one bit. After ages of attacking, the ISD was still in perfect health. Repairs were being made to the ISD while the attack was on, meaning that the ST ships were not even disrupting the repairs to the ISD in any way.

Since both these aspects existed mainly during the time peroid of Freespace, then that means shields and weaponry of GTVA ships could be very similar to that of Star Trek ships.


Note: I do not own The Last Bastion series in any way, but it is a very good series and can be found on YouTube. Watch it for a good laugh and some more insight.

[ShadowGorrath]

1 hitpoint in FS is aprox 1.5625 megatons. According to the Harbinger at least.

[colecampbell666]

I am coming closer and closer to having the script for the fan fic ready. So far we are still a bit unable to clear things up around shields. Here is some more info you can debate on...

A SW vs ST (Star Trek) fan named Lord Poe (Or many other names to do with "Poe") make an excellent and funny series with "The Movies" game called "The Last Bastion". It was set in the time after the Sovereign-class ship (Capatain Picard's Enterprise in "Nemesis" and "First Contact") was built. Due to real world calculations and hours of techno babble (As you might call it) it was confirmed through the SW Attack of the Clones incredible cross sections and the techno babble in the TNG (The Next Generation) series that SW ships clearly serpassed Star Trek ships. The Last Bastion detailed how much damage a single low powerred light turbo laser shot can do to the most advanced ship in all of Starfleet. 1/4 of the Sorverign was destroyed. And that was only a light turbo laser shot. Now, the ST universe is in a very similar time peroid as FS. This fact implies that weaponry might be very similar in strength, along with shields. Speaking of shields... In The Last Bastion, several ST ships were engaging an ISD. The ISD shields were not damaged one bit. After ages of attacking, the ISD was still in perfect health. Repairs were being made to the ISD while the attack was on, meaning that the ST ships were not even disrupting the repairs to the ISD in any way.

Since both these aspects existed mainly during the time peroid of Freespace, then that means shields and weaponry of GTVA ships could be very similar to that of Star Trek ships.


Note: I do not own The Last Bastion series in any way, but it is a very good series and can be found on YouTube. Watch it for a good laugh and some more insight.

Star Wars happened A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, while Star Trek happened in 2100 summat. FreeSpace happened in 2335. Not the same timeline at all, and we already had an Orion Vs. ISD battle (some YouTube video, I believe by Cobra), in which the Orion kicked ass. Besides the capships, think of the FreeSpace fighters, which have easily better shields. A Tie doesn't even have shields for the most part, and most Rebel fighters can only survive a few hits. An FS fighter can keep going and going, absorbing punishment.

[ShadowGorrath]

I am coming closer and closer to having the script for the fan fic ready. So far we are still a bit unable to clear things up around shields. Here is some more info you can debate on...

A SW vs ST (Star Trek) fan named Lord Poe (Or many other names to do with "Poe") make an excellent and funny series with "The Movies" game called "The Last Bastion". It was set in the time after the Sovereign-class ship (Capatain Picard's Enterprise in "Nemesis" and "First Contact") was built. Due to real world calculations and hours of techno babble (As you might call it) it was confirmed through the SW Attack of the Clones incredible cross sections and the techno babble in the TNG (The Next Generation) series that SW ships clearly serpassed Star Trek ships. The Last Bastion detailed how much damage a single low powerred light turbo laser shot can do to the most advanced ship in all of Starfleet. 1/4 of the Sorverign was destroyed. And that was only a light turbo laser shot. Now, the ST universe is in a very similar time peroid as FS. This fact implies that weaponry might be very similar in strength, along with shields. Speaking of shields... In The Last Bastion, several ST ships were engaging an ISD. The ISD shields were not damaged one bit. After ages of attacking, the ISD was still in perfect health. Repairs were being made to the ISD while the attack was on, meaning that the ST ships were not even disrupting the repairs to the ISD in any way.

Since both these aspects existed mainly during the time peroid of Freespace, then that means shields and weaponry of GTVA ships could be very similar to that of Star Trek ships.


Note: I do not own The Last Bastion series in any way, but it is a very good series and can be found on YouTube. Watch it for a good laugh and some more insight.

Star Wars happened A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, while Star Trek happened in 2100 summat. FreeSpace happened in 2335. Not the same timeline at all, and we already had an Orion Vs. ISD battle (some YouTube video, I believe by Cobra), in which the Orion kicked ass. Besides the capships, think of the FreeSpace fighters, which have easily better shields. A Tie doesn't even have shields for the most part, and most Rebel fighters can only survive a few hits. An FS fighter can keep going and going, absorbing punishment.

That 'ISD vs GTD Orion' video was made by me.

[Stormkeeper]

Add to the fact that we have kick ass secondaries and primaries. Not just laser cannons, but controlled nuclear explosions! Plus, I've yet to see a SW secondary that fires in salvos of 8.


... Come to think of it, the only secondaries I've seen in SW are photon torpedoes and concussion missiles.

[Droid803]

... Come to think of it, the only secondaries I've seen in SW are photon torpedoes and concussion missiles.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52497.msg0.html

^ SW Secondaries. Some of them are decent, and I think you can swarm-fire concussion missiles (although m you can't cram hundreds of dumbfire missiles on to a fighter)

[Stormkeeper]

So no Total Dumbfire Ownage ?

[Uchuujinsan]

When comparing freespace vs star wars fighters I always think of the following:
Length of the Millenium Falcon: 26,7m
Length of a Medusa Bomber: 41m
So, try to remember how  a bunch of Ties are engaging the Falcon in the Star Wars movies...

Well, at least the Empire got numbers

[Droid803]

Damn, those TIEs will be harder to hit than SF Dragons 

[ShadowGorrath]

Take Maxims and snipe them from long range before they even get near you.

[Stormkeeper]

Pffft. We just have to poision their beer with some poison and they're easier to hit than a dumb duck inn christmas.

[ShivanEmperor]

I am coming closer and closer to having the script for the fan fic ready. So far we are still a bit unable to clear things up around shields. Here is some more info you can debate on...

A SW vs ST (Star Trek) fan named Lord Poe (Or many other names to do with "Poe") make an excellent and funny series with "The Movies" game called "The Last Bastion". It was set in the time after the Sovereign-class ship (Capatain Picard's Enterprise in "Nemesis" and "First Contact") was built. Due to real world calculations and hours of techno babble (As you might call it) it was confirmed through the SW Attack of the Clones incredible cross sections and the techno babble in the TNG (The Next Generation) series that SW ships clearly serpassed Star Trek ships. The Last Bastion detailed how much damage a single low powerred light turbo laser shot can do to the most advanced ship in all of Starfleet. 1/4 of the Sorverign was destroyed. And that was only a light turbo laser shot. Now, the ST universe is in a very similar time peroid as FS. This fact implies that weaponry might be very similar in strength, along with shields. Speaking of shields... In The Last Bastion, several ST ships were engaging an ISD. The ISD shields were not damaged one bit. After ages of attacking, the ISD was still in perfect health. Repairs were being made to the ISD while the attack was on, meaning that the ST ships were not even disrupting the repairs to the ISD in any way.

Since both these aspects existed mainly during the time peroid of Freespace, then that means shields and weaponry of GTVA ships could be very similar to that of Star Trek ships.


Note: I do not own The Last Bastion series in any way, but it is a very good series and can be found on YouTube. Watch it for a good laugh and some more insight.

Star Wars happened A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, while Star Trek happened in 2100 summat. FreeSpace happened in 2335. Not the same timeline at all, and we already had an Orion Vs. ISD battle (some YouTube video, I believe by Cobra), in which the Orion kicked ass. Besides the capships, think of the FreeSpace fighters, which have easily better shields. A Tie doesn't even have shields for the most part, and most Rebel fighters can only survive a few hits. An FS fighter can keep going and going, absorbing punishment.

Star Trek has loads of different timelines. During the time of "Nemesis" and "First Contact" the year is somewhere around the 23rd to 25th century. Meaning Star Trek ships are not that weak. Those phasers on the Star Trek ships look juts a little weaker than beam cannons but they have a far greater firing rate, which should make them the same strength as a beam cannon. Yes, beam cannons pack quite a wallop but Star Wars ships are for more advanced. Over 50 thousand years since first entering galactic society, the SW ships would have had far more time to develop super advanced tech. Also, SW episode 3, the Invisible Hand is firing all its weapons to starboard on a Venator Class. Both the Venator and Invisible Hand are creating massive dents and explosions on the hulls of each ship. The firepower of a Turbo Laser looks like more than enough to overtake the full power of a Terran Beam Cannon. Since Star Trek ships have very little luck in going up against an ISD's, FS ships would have similar chances. Unless anyone else has any other clues as to comparisons in shields and fire power, SW ships can defeat a FS ships with significant ease. By the way, that video of the Orion v.s. an ISD is not entirely accurate. An ISD, I believe, is a bit bigger than that. Also, that ISD's weaponry was not based in RL calculations. Go to the Star Wars Technical Commentaries and you should see the strength of weapons and shields. These specs are superior to those of ST ships. ST ships of the latest ST timeline to date would be similar to those of FS ships. Time and tech are the key to determining superiority of ships.


I have pretty much got the script for my fan fic planned out. Expect part one within a weeks time or less.

[Uchuujinsan]

The relative size in the video is correct. ISD are smaller than Orion class destroyers.

Both the Venator and Invisible Hand are creating massive dents and explosions on the hulls of each ship

When the Luci fired on an old Orion, it completely punched through the hull with only one shot, instantly vaporizing ships 1.5 times the size of the Millenium Falcon that were in the way (FS2 opening sequence)
Again, "massive" is relativ to the size, and due to the low detail models people tend to greatly undererstimate the size of Freespace ships.

[ShadowGorrath]

Actually, their in-game size appears smaller due to the FOV/POV/whatever. I placed a player controled Inferno Shivan Juggernaut 20 kilometers away from a 6400km size Earth model's surface. It looked way smaller than it should have. . .

[Uchuujinsan]

Ok, maybe my "due to" was false

[ShadowGorrath]

The Star Destroyers are smaller than Orions though. They're 1.4/1.7km, and the Orion's 2.1km.

[colecampbell666]

So technology dictates that they would be less powerful. Unless they're super advanced over the GTVA.

[Stormkeeper]

In other words, the less numerous GTVA Fleet would overwhelm the far more numerous, but beam-cannon-less Imperial Fleet. Also, we has Vasudans, they only have Trandoshans.