[Commander Zane]

I'll go with the UEF for the Uriel.

[OsirisFLFan]

Me likey the uriel, but i can't wait to hear the sound effects for the rail guns on the UEF battleships

[Fury]

There's one word for the sound of mass drivers and gauss cannons UEF use: manly.

[OsirisFLFan]

There's one word for the sound of mass drivers and gauss cannons UEF use: manly.

Ahhhh, i love the smell of testosterone in the morning...smells like...victory

[Androgeos Exeunt]

There's one word for the sound of mass drivers and gauss cannons UEF use: manly.

I thought the sound for all mass drivers and gauss cannons always sounds manly.

[OsirisFLFan]

As anyone who played AoA through can attest, the strength of the beams doesn't matter.
The problem is, that the Raynor as so many of them, which makes disarming them in time to save your caps hard (at least if you sit in a Pegasus and try to disarm the Orestes, to save the Karuna in the last mission....).

I'm replaying the mod again but does saving the karuna really do anything ? (other than give you a nice tingly feeling )

[Androgeos Exeunt]

You're not supposed to save it.

[Droid803]

There's one word for the sound of mass drivers and gauss cannons UEF use: manly.

Ahhhh, i love the smell of testosterone in the morning...smells like...victory

Isn't it "Napalm"? Or am I remembering the quote wrong...

[NGTM-1R]

As anyone who played AoA through can attest, the strength of the beams doesn't matter.

As anyone who's working on WiH can attest, it damn well does.

[Dilmah G]

Amen to that.

[Nehemiah]

As anyone who played AoA through can attest, the strength of the beams doesn't matter.
The problem is, that the Raynor as so many of them, which makes disarming them in time to save your caps hard (at least if you sit in a Pegasus and try to disarm the Orestes, to save the Karuna in the last mission....).

I'm replaying the mod again but does saving the karuna really do anything ? (other than give you a nice tingly feeling )

See, I tried that, but the sheer number of the Orestes' beam cannons make it impossible.  However, I just started playing around with a VP extractor and modifying table values for weapons.tbl.  I recommend setting the Balor's weapon damage to 10,000 and it's mass to 1,000,000.  Next, shoot your Balor at the Orestes and watch it fly backwards right before exploding into a huge ball of flame!

As for who will win this war, it would obviously be the GTVA in a truthful mod, but seeing as you play this mod on the side of the United Earth, the UE forces will emerge victorious.  I maintain that the GTVA's use of beam weaponry coupled with the fact that while Sol was separated from the GTVA, they let the Eastern religious teachers take over the world and brainwash everyone with their wimpy Zen ways.  The GTVA's desire for conquest of Sol would naturally result in their victory.

If the UE is going to win this war in a believable fashion, they will have to do two things:

1) Hijack some GTVA military hardware and reverse engineer beam cannons.

2) Kick out the Zen teachers and stop being pansies.

3a) Pray to God that a friendly GTVBs Archangel Mk. 2 with a friendly IFF code jumps into the Sol system of Blue Planet's continuity from another FS2 continuity and volunteers to fight for the UE forces.

OR

3b) An Earth Alliance fleet from the Inferno continuity ends up in the Sol system of the Blue Planet continuity due to an anomaly in the Inferno continuity's Sol gate and volunteers to fight for Sol and kicks out the wimpy Zen teachers. (Kind of like how the BP:AoA GTVA ended up in an alternate Sol when they flew through their own Sol gate in BP: AoA, right?)

[General Battuta]

As for who will win this war, it would obviously be the GTVA in a truthful mod, but seeing as you play this mod on the side of the United Earth, the UE forces will emerge victorious.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions about the simplemindedness of the writers there.

[Nehemiah]

As for who will win this war, it would obviously be the GTVA in a truthful mod, but seeing as you play this mod on the side of the United Earth, the UE forces will emerge victorious.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions about the simplemindedness of the writers there.

Very seldom does Alpha 1 lose.

[General Battuta]

Maybe you missed a game called 'FreeSpace 2'. 

[Nehemiah]

"So certain are you?,
mmmhhhhhhehahh ahah" - Yoda

I mock Yoda for viewing the FS universe as a binary set. That only works for his universe.

Actually, if you look at Star Wars' progressive development in the real world, that the ideology of the original trilogy comes before the ideology of the prequels, you can see that George Lucas' point of view changed from 1977 to 2005.  The original trilogy is a lot more absolutist in its philosophy, with a definite good and evil, while the prequels are more relativistic, with concepts of good and evil being more fluid.  After all, even Mace Windu and Yoda agree that "only the Sith deal in absolutes."  This makes the light side of the force out to be the balanced side of the force.  The dark side then becomes anything on the extreme, be it good or evil.  I don't know, all this relativistic crap is so convulted that it is a self-defeating philosphy...and it gives me a headache to contemplate...go GTVA!!!

[Nehemiah]

Maybe you missed a game called 'FreeSpace 2'. 

Maybe you missed the Inferno R1 sequel Solar Wars mod, in which the Terran Juggernaut vaporizes the SSJ Gigas.  I jumped up and clapped when I saw that!

[-Norbert-]

Maybe the UEF will lose the war, but in a last blaze of glory punch through the blockade into GTVA space, to inform the citizens of the atrocities commited by the invasion force, which will spark off an all-out civil war with the surviving UEF fleets making guerillia strikes in support of the rebels.

And once the GTVA is reformed into pacifists, the Shivans show up and turn everyone into militarists again.

[Rodo]

Maybe the UEF will lose the war, but in a last blaze of glory punch through the blockade into GTVA space, to inform the citizens of the atrocities commited by the invasion force

don't think the UEF needs to do that, every GTVA operative entering and exiting from Sol will surely catch some propaganda coming from earth explaining the facts, that they believe in that.. well that's another story.

[Vip]

Actually, think about it. For almost 50 years, the GTVA was cut off from Sol. Finally, they found a way to re-establish the connection. And instead of finally reuniting with their long-lost brethren and returning to the Terran homeworld, they GTVA finds itself in war. This alone should beat the hell out of GTVA's morale. They've been through the NTF Rebellion, the Second Shivan Incursion and now are fighting against the UEF. The civilian population is probably tired of all those conflicts and I can imagine riots, strikes and protests throughout the GTVA space. I wouldn't be surprised if the GTVA would lose this war - not in the military sense, but in propaganda. Especially given the supposed lack of Vasudan support for this civil war.

[Droid803]

Honestly, if I were a GTVA citizen, I would be more concerned of my government becoming pansies like the UEF.
I don't think preaching peace will help you survive the Shivans. Even if it does, it's because of some plot device. You can't rely on plot devices.