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i thought the dreadnought qualifier was to be ugly as sin and covered with weapons =p

 

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The qualification for a dreadnought is that there's little else to match it. The clue's in the name. :p
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I believe the original qualification for being a dreadnought was that the main batteries of the ship were all of the same caliber (rather than of mixed calibers.)

That was the original qualification, yes.

A normal battleship with all big (and the same) calibers.

 

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The original dreadnaughts distinction was not just the guns, several other warship at the same time and slightly earlier has similar 'big-gun' armament, but relied on more balanced armour and reciprocating steam engines, while Dreadnaught relied on an armour belt and turbines to be able to outrun anything else of her size (such as the IJN's Satsuma-class or the USNs South Carolina-class).
But yes, To be class as a dreadnaught a ship should be able to survive combat with anything, being able to outgun anything it can't outrun.

 

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Well the best i can think of of a dreadnaught in FS terms would be a ship a bit bigger then the ...Orion or Hecate or whatever with massive more HP and double the beam cannons of the Orion. Or at least beam cannons that could scare the lights out of even the mighty orion or the Hattie or even the Ravana for that matter. It would not be able stand for long against a Sath but it would be able to take on anithing out there smaller the a jugg.

The Iceni would be akin to a poket battleship of ww2..and even that is pushing it.


However refering to FS2 era ships the Iceni had it been a bit larger and some fighters/bombers on it it would of been a poket destroyer.

So given the current specs it's a friggate. Too big and too heavely armoured and armed for a corvette yet not quite big enough to be a poket destroyer of sorts.

So how about a battlefrigate or something like tat . since the medical ship the Hipacrates was also called a frigate.....
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In my opinion, FS2 Dreadnaught = Lucifer-sized, Orion-armed battleship

FS2 Frigate = Small, fat, oversized, chubby, deadly ship
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Small . . . oversized

WTF?

 

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Yeah whats with the oversized ???

Except for the Sobek and the Deimos the Iceni is the most streamlined ship in game.
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Yeah whats with the oversized ???

Except for the Sobek and the Deimos the Iceni is the most streamlined ship in game.

The Iceni also happens to be larger than a Deimos, even though it's much smaller than an Orion.
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Yeah whats with the oversized ???

Except for the Sobek and the Deimos the Iceni is the most streamlined ship in game.


I still dont get your point ! Its smaller then the Orion yeah its barely 1 km in lenght.

The Deimos barely scratches 0.8 or so with the Sobek even smaller at about 0.6 km or so !

so......whats with the fast oversized. For its size its got excelent HP and more then enough raw firepower to put the Hecate to shame.
The Iceni also happens to be larger than a Deimos, even though it's much smaller than an Orion.
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Right, here are my reasons for describing a frigate (or the Iceni, if you put it that way) as I did:

Small, because it's smaller than a destroyer;
Fat, because it has a huge side profile;
Oversized, because it is larger than a corvette;
Chubby, because it is fat and oversized; and
Deadly, because it has destroyer-class armament.
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lol what about the Demon or the Sath. they have a pretty big fat profile if you ask me.

Actualy the Iceni considering  everithing is not that fat. In fact i find it a rather dificult target especialy for the slasher beams. :D
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lol what about the Demon or the Sath. they have a pretty big fat profile if you ask me.

True, but the former's a destroyer and the latter a juggernaut.

Actualy the Iceni considering  everithing is not that fat. In fact i find it a rather dificult target especialy for the slasher beams. :D

Well, in a literal sense, it isn't fat. :)
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nah i know now what you mean . But its profile its slightly bigger then a Deimos so by all intents and purposes its really anemic if you ask me ! thats what makes it so cool. You have a ship that you dont actualy expect it to do better then the Deimos by a large margin against other capship's that is untill it lets loof on your escort warship with its 3 BGreens .

Then your jaw drops and you are in awe of what such a tiny ship can dish out.

It like the like engine that could you know...
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The slasher beams are actually no more accurate on a large target than they are at a small. IIRC

 

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Errr......well sort of....its just a bit harder for a slasher to overshoot the broadside of a jugg or a destroyer then it is to overshoot a corvette/frigate .


Man those slashers suck. I saw  payred slasher beams hitting the sath for less time that it takes me to blink and then shooting off into space.

I mean come on ou would figure 300 years into the future they have better tageting computers on those things !
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No, it isn't. The slasher picks two points on the model to slash between. It doesn't matter if it's a cruiser or a jug... once again IIRC

 

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I mean come on ou would figure 300 years into the future they have better tageting computers on those things !

 . . . and we see why the Shivans are smart enough to arm their warships with good, honest straight beams.

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No, it isn't. The slasher picks two points on the model to slash between. It doesn't matter if it's a cruiser or a jug... once again IIRC

Yeah, that's how it works. It picks two points, usually on opposite sides, and then slashes across it in its lifetime (the bigger the target, the aster it moves).
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