Author Topic: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus? (Read 48617 times)

eliex · **Reply #180 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:41:09 pm

Quote from: Rodo on January 22, 2009, 04:19:08 pm

You always need an "invincible" foe to keep the player at the edge of the chair... is that right? m

Certainly for Inferno - the SH Gargant if it's still going to be in the upcoming INF SCP.

Androgeos Exeunt · **Reply #181 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:09:09 am

Remove that last e from "Gargante", elie.

AlphaOne · **Reply #182 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:16:47 am

Well for a ship of its size the Collie much like the Hecate class destroyer is so poorly armed.

I mean the Orion has 4 BG an 2 slashers i believe or something like that.

While all mighty Colossus has 6 or 7 BG and just as many slashers ?????? WTF is with that combo ???

I henestly dont get it ! Why the hell did they put so many slashes on the Collie for that matter why the hell does the Collie have so few beams ???

I mean its many times the size and volume of a Hecate or Orion or Hattie so if we take the Orion as an example it should have at least 12 BG and 8 or so slashers not to mention a few dozen aaaf defence batteries.

TopAce · **Reply #183 on:** January 23, 2009, 05:34:31 am

Quote from: AlphaOne on January 23, 2009, 03:16:47 am

...While all mighty Colossus has 6 or 7 BG and just as many slashers ?????? WTF is with that combo ???

I henestly dont get it ! Why the hell did they put so many slashes on the Collie for that matter why the hell does the Collie have so few beams ???..

Because it's enough. Have you seen how easily the Colossus took down a Ravana in Clash of the Titans II?

Excalibur · **Reply #184 on:** January 23, 2009, 06:01:46 am

Yes, but it still took whatever it took minus about 15 seconds...

Rodo · **Reply #185 on:** January 23, 2009, 06:26:14 am

I had the impresion that the collie should have had a new kind of beam, a powerfull one, every flag ship has it's own distinctive characteristics... like the sath... it forward beam cannons are the punch, the collie just seems to be a bigger warship... no real improvements on any field... a new powerfull and dreadfull beam would have been nice not a bunch of those, just one, one new powerfull beam and that's it.

AlphaOne · **Reply #186 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:03:55 am

Rodo you seem to be stepping into Inferno mod right about now !

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Loved that campaign !

Sure it might be enough to dispatch a couple of destroyers at once but even so it just seems like the Collie is a victim of its own long development period.

Thats just how it seems to me .

I mean what was cutting edge 5 or 10 years before would be standard now.

The Hattie on the other hand is a brand new state of the art destroyer ! And it shows.

The Orion is a victim of its age yet even so it is the most feared Destroyer in game from a capship vs capship combat i mean . The most powerfull ones inclueding fighter bays aaaf defences would have to be Hecate then Hattie then Ravana then Orion then Demon .

Rodo · **Reply #187 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:01:03 am

what's the Hattie? I thought you ment the Hecate with that but

Quote from: AlphaOne on January 23, 2009, 07:03:55 am

The most powerfull ones inclueding fighter bays aaaf defences would have to be Hecate then Hattie then Ravana then Orion then Demon .

Snail · **Reply #188 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:02:39 am

Hatshepsut

azile0 · **Reply #189 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:04:53 am

I agree. I really wanted to see a DNA-shaped beam cannon. That would be AWESOME on the Collie.

Rodo · **Reply #190 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:08:29 am

well too bad the retail script was done this way... it's got his moments anyway.

Dilmah G · **Reply #191 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:32:59 am

Quote from: Rodo on January 23, 2009, 11:08:29 am

well too bad the retail script was done this way... it's got his moments anyway.

mmm, I suppose, but High Noon IMO should have been some great epik battle in which the entire 3rd Fleet mounts a flank attack while the Colly takes the brunt of the 4 BFReds and dishes out its own punishment while Alpha Wing take out the remaining cannons and have the rest of the 33rd in Bakhas and some bombers from the Colossus with some kind of FIGHTER ESCORT! DAMMIT VOLITION! try to get in close to the Sath, while it throws its own fighters at the GTVA Ships and this huge climax battle takes place and ends in a cutscene similar in scale to the fs2 intro where triumphant music plays as the Sath goes down in a flurry of fighters, beams, and debris

But that's just my Opinion

nostro_pl · **Reply #192 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:12:06 pm

Exactly, it would be great.
Destruction of the Sathanas was a great success of a GTVA, and it should be rewarded by a movie

Mobius · **Reply #193 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:25:53 pm

Well, with FSO and the Media VPs such a cutscene would be very bad if compared to the in-game event.

Commander Zane · **Reply #194 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:49:56 pm

Quote from: nostro_pl on January 23, 2009, 03:12:06 pm

Exactly, it would be great.
Destruction of the Sathanas was a great success of a GTVA, and it should be rewarded by a movie

Like the rest of the GTVA should get credit from what the Colossus and a single bomber wing did.

Mobius · **Reply #195 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:58:45 pm

Are posts in General FreeSpace supposed to miss the differences between the FreeSpace Universe and what we see ingame? It's quite obvious that in a Universe point of view the engagement didn't involve only two ships and two wings. Other notable examples are Apocalypse, Bearbaiting and Evangelist.

Snail · **Reply #196 on:** January 23, 2009, 05:05:33 pm

Quote from: Mobius on January 23, 2009, 04:58:45 pm

Are posts in General FreeSpace supposed to miss the differences between the FreeSpace Universe and what we see ingame? It's quite obvious that in a Universe point of view the engagement didn't involve only two ships and two wings. Other notable examples are Apocalypse, Bearbaiting and Evangelist.

Honestly I can understand this argument but others, like "FS2 overrides all FS1 aspects" is complete bollocks.

Commander Zane · **Reply #197 on:** January 23, 2009, 06:18:25 pm

Quote from: Mobius on January 23, 2009, 04:58:45 pm

Are posts in General FreeSpace supposed to miss the differences between the FreeSpace Universe and what we see ingame? It's quite obvious that in a Universe point of view the engagement didn't involve only two ships and two wings. Other notable examples are Apocalypse, Bearbaiting and Evangelist.

As true as that is the Colossus and bomber wings are really the only things that could've made enough of a difference to turn the tide of battle in such a situation though. Like how the only thing that made a difference between a dead Earth and victory for the GTA was a surgical strike against the Lucifer.
That's just probably the game though. Perhaps in a real-life scenario things would be way different.

Dilmah G · **Reply #198 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:02:51 pm

Quote from: Commander Zane on January 23, 2009, 04:49:56 pm

Quote from: nostro_pl on January 23, 2009, 03:12:06 pm
Exactly, it would be great.
Destruction of the Sathanas was a great success of a GTVA, and it should be rewarded by a movie
Like the rest of the GTVA should get credit from what the Colossus and a single bomber wing did.

Hmmm, I think I might just *attempt* FRED-ing that

At least it'll put this new soundtrack I've been working on to good use

Snail · **Reply #199 on:** January 24, 2009, 09:34:52 am

Quote from: Commander Zane on January 23, 2009, 06:18:25 pm

Quote from: Mobius on January 23, 2009, 04:58:45 pm
Are posts in General FreeSpace supposed to miss the differences between the FreeSpace Universe and what we see ingame? It's quite obvious that in a Universe point of view the engagement didn't involve only two ships and two wings. Other notable examples are Apocalypse, Bearbaiting and Evangelist.
As true as that is the Colossus and bomber wings are really the only things that could've made enough of a difference to turn the tide of battle in such a situation though. Like how the only thing that made a difference between a dead Earth and victory for the GTA was a surgical strike against the Lucifer.
That's just probably the game though. Perhaps in a real-life scenario things would be way different.

In a real-life scenario there wouldn't be a GTVA.

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