[Vengence]

It has been several years since I have made this and my skill in not only modeling but photoshop has significantly increased. So much so that this model and texture is obsolete. I want to remake it, retaining the basic silhouette but a completely revamped ship. I sort of want to keep some of the objects and get rid of a few others but then here is where I want to make things interesting for ya... here is the ship, what should I add, remove, or make pretty?

[Droid803]

The wings look a bit fragile. Maybe thickening the wings/putting some greebles or armor plates onto it so that the pods don't look like they would snap off if it hits something?

I'm also thinking that the part connecting the gun pod to the engine could be changed up, as it doesn't follow the 'flow' of the wing.

Donno...

[Vengence]

Okay 

So you know I am shooting for a huge polycount. As in near next gen polycount meaning 16,000 polygons or somewhat less. And no worries folks  , I will include efficient LODS. I am starting the model with the engine pod. The pod alone with the missile rack has almost 2000 polygons.... so that means I have 8000 polygons already XD. Well most of it is actually in the missiles so I'll have to optimize.

Okay HLP folks, I really mean it that I'd love any suggestions but let me be more specific... if you have any design or ideas to integrate just say and show or describe. Seriously, I'd like this to be a bit more interactive.

New stuff:
New Engine pod and missile pod. Also better integration of wing to engine. The wing has a MUCH larger connection to the engine and a larger wing section so far on the mesh in progress. This should make it look stronger.

[Commander Zane]

Sexy.

[Jadehawk]

Your guns...make them more detailed so when you see them you know right away what they are designed for! 

[Vengence]

do ya have any images or references you want me to base off in particular?

[Mobius]

Is that a model based on the old EAF Claymore Mk II?

Or maybe the Claymore Mk II is based on that model?

In any case, very nice work on that!   

[Narvi]

Add some bracing at the "elbow" where the wing meets the engine pod. Currently, it's at possibly the worst angle from a structural viewpoint, especially for an engine. One misfire, and that pod breaks off. Also, you might want to move the missile pods to the center of the vessel, since it's kinda empty over there.

Nice ship, looks like a next-gen Starfury from B5. Thunderbolts, were they called?

[Mobius]

Oh right - I now remember there also is a B5 fighter with that shape.

[nvsblmnc]

It's not a standard Tbolt though - looks like a cross between a Tbolt and a Claymore 2/3...

[Mobius]

I fail to get the connection to the Claymore Mk III, though...

[The E]

My 2 cents: Lose that connection between the weapons and the engine pod. It makes that whole area look kinda flimsy, IMO.
I mean, this fighter looks like it's carrying heavy armament, but no armor, which feels kinda wrong.

[Mobius]

Why? "Carrying heavy armament, but no armor" sounds like the description of a well-specified heavy interceptor.

[The E]

I don't know, actually. I guess seeing the Zeus' missile racks on an interceptor threw my design sensibilities off-course.

[Vengence]

Yeah I got tons of those comments before 

I suppose I could make a built in missile pod into the wings but when I designed it I felt that it looked better this way.

Update: In total the wing thickness to be is over 300% thicker. New gun, yay. And adding bracings to the wing/pod

[Retsof]

The pod looks awesome, but I agree that you need to sure up the connection between the pod and the wing.

[Titan]

when will you RELEASE this mod?

[Mobius]

That's a bith harsh comment, Titan.

Vengence, check your PMs.

[Vengence]

Replied. And I dunno about a release, maybe a model release but somebody else would have to export these as POF though I could rig the models in PCS2.

Working on the wings now. As you can see they are much thicker than before.


Taking the missile suggestion in mind.... do you want the wing to be plain or have the missiles inside the wing? The obvious tradeoff will be UV space and polygon count but also another secondary bay  .

[Titan]

Sorry. YOu know how people have problems, they spend too much time on the net, and then they speak in the wrong tone because they don't use smileys? Opposite thing.

I just remember seeing some shots for this a while back, and it looks pretty awesome.