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Do Frigate Class Warships have a place in the GTVA

Yes, Corvettes Drool!:drevil:
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No, Corvettes rool!!:snipe:
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Offline Liberator

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Fraigate Class Warships
Frigate is defined as "a warship that is smaller than a destroyer ".  Simple Enough.

A Corvette is defined as "a highly maneuverable armed escort ship that is smaller than a destroyer ".  This is where it gets more complicated,  it doesn't say that a Corvette is smaller than a frigate.

Any way here my question, should there be a ship class called frigates in the FS?  If so why?  I mean if the only rep of this class(NTF Iceni) is any example theres no reason, when a Deimos packs as big a wallop and is cheaper and faster to produce.
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Offline CP5670

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Well, what ships would go into the Frigate class? (aside from the Iceni)

 

Offline Fury

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Well, FS ship classes are wrong anyways.

It should go like this (from smallest to biggest)
Corvette
Frigate
Destroyer
Cruiser
Battleship
Juggernaught

Cruisers like Aeolus and Mentu should be corvettes.
(Fast and maneuverable anti-fighter or anti-capship escort vessels)

Corvettes like Deimos and Sobek should be Frigates.
(Bigger than cruisers but no as fast, capable of tearing down both fighters and capships.)

Ships larger than frigates but smaller than cruisers should be designated as destroyers. Alright, perhaps this class can be used for ships that packs as much punch as cruisers but does not have fighterbay. Or packs as much punch as corvettes but has fighterbay. Or something like that... :p

And destroyers like Hecate and Hatshepsut should be cruisers.
(Big and sluggish, has wide variety of weapons arsenal and excellent fighter and bomber numbers. Does not have very much firepower over Destroyers howewer. Focus is on fighter and bomber numbers.)

Bigger ships than cruisers should be designated as battleships.
(Very big ships, it's a menace for all ships that are smaller than this class but does have smaller fighterbays than cruisers.)

And last juggernaughts which are the biggest ships, like Colossus and Sathanas.
(You see one of this class, RUN AND HIDE! Or be sure you have enough firepower in your pocket)

Of course I can't remember correctly real life ship classes sizes, but if I remember correctly, that is correct order of capital ship classes.

Of course balance is important, there should not be useless ship class, of course individual ships can be useless... :p

In my opinion of course. :D

So, yes there is place for frigates. :)
« Last Edit: March 23, 2002, 06:23:52 am by 173 »

 

Offline Crazy_Ivan80

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you've forgotten:
(Fleet?) Carrier and Escort Carrier
and Dreadnaught (although this could be classified as an older type of Battleship)
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Offline Zeronet

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Looks right(ish).
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Offline Nico

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There's frigates in OTT, but they're defined this one because of special abilities, not because of size ( or else it's just a big cruiser or a small corvette, what's the point? ).
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Offline Fury

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Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80
you've forgotten:
(Fleet?) Carrier and Escort Carrier
and Dreadnaught (although this could be classified as an older type of Battleship)


Yea, I left carriers out because I thought cruises will be enough.

Or if you want carriers then they should have very light armament but damn a lot of fighters and bombers.

But the problem will be that for one mission even single cruiser possesses more than enough fighters and bombers, so you never see the difference... only difference you see is the number and power of weapons which is sad...

 

Offline Nico

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btw, FS2 classification may sound odd, but don't you think it's in fact qute logical? destroyer sounds like it can deal a lot of damage, and cruiser, well, kindda patrol areas maybe?
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Offline Fury

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Yes it sound better, expect for corvettes part.
Corvettes are small patrol/escort vessels, not full warships like in FS2... :p

 

Offline aldo_14

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Personally, I define frigates as greater than corvette size (around 1km), with no fighterbay and similar weaponry to corvettes.

The main reason is just that I want a mid-range ship - and i'm mainly phasing out cruisers for corvettes - and also that the Terran destroyers are increasingly becoming more like a carrier (Hecate) in strength.

There's no good reason...it's just what i do.

 

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well from what i understand the frigate Bosch's frigatte at least could pose a threat to even a destroyer although i cant se how .
Another interesting thing is that a frigate could turn a single corvette into dust even 2 if im right not 3 because it would alredy be too much for it but nonetheless a frigate is a good thing to have in Fs2 especialy if they are more and belong to the GTVA! :headz:
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Fighter
Bomber
Corvette
Frigate
Destroyer
Cruiser
Battleship
Carrier
Juggernaught
Dreadnaut
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I think....
However, Dreadnaut and Juggernaut might be switched around.
But to answer your question, yes there are room for corvettes. What Id really like to see is someone take the time in their campaign to properly re-designate all the ships to follow this more accurate line.
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Offline LtNarol

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cruisers more powerful than a destroyer in fs2?

 

Offline Fury

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Originally posted by LtNarol
cruisers more powerful than a destroyer in fs2?


No, in real life. :) Sort of, all ship classes have their roles in real life navy, except battleships which are now decommissioned.

 

Offline CP5670

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btw, FS2 classification may sound odd, but don't you think it's in fact qute logical? destroyer sounds like it can deal a lot of damage, and cruiser, well, kindda patrol areas maybe?


My thoughts exactly. "Destroyer" seems to sound more powerful than "cruiser," if you know what I mean. ;)

I think there is also something called a battlecruiser in real life; anyone know where this class falls?

 
The russian Battlecruiser KIROV packs a wallup of missiles well Battlecruisers coudl be described as cruisers who can engage other capital ships without support

The Russian Kirov Class Heavy Missile Cruise Ship are the world's largest 'cruisers' and might best be termed "battle cruisers". Originally designed as a large antisubmarine warship to search for and engage enemy ballistic missile submarines, the Kirov’s role was expanded to engage large surface targets and provide air and antisubmarine protection to naval forces after the introduction of the Granit antiship missile system. There are substantial differences in the equipment of each unit of this class.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/1144.htm
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Well, FS ship classes are wrong anyways.

It should go like this (from smallest to biggest)...


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The russian Battlecruiser KIROV packs a wallup of missiles well Battlecruisers coudl be described as cruisers who can engage other capital ships without support

The Russian Kirov Class Heavy Missile Cruise Ship are the world's largest 'cruisers' and might best be termed "battle cruisers". Originally designed as a large antisubmarine warship to search for and engage enemy ballistic missile submarines, the Kirov’s role was expanded to engage large surface targets and provide air and antisubmarine protection to naval forces after the introduction of the Granit antiship missile system. There are substantial differences in the equipment of each unit of this class.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/1144.htm


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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor


O Khonsu, not again. :rolleyes:

Do a search, people, please. And don't bring it up again. :no:


Note: I didn't create this topic, only replied to it. So don't quote me about that. :p

 

The 130mm AK-130-MR-184 Universal Automated Shipboard Artillery System.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kirov/index.html

You mean something like this? though I myself still prefeer tripple X turrets;7
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