[Dilmah G]

So the Iraqis are the misogynist douchebags.

It's part of their religion, they don't despise women, they respect them to some extent, but by our standards they MAY appear misogynist. Douschebags I'd doubt, I know a few Iraqis who are fine people to be around, but some of them seem to stick in their own "communities"... lifting weights, drinking, and smoking weed, but that's beside the point.

[iamzack]

They use "woman" as an insult, but they respect women?

[Dilmah G]

They take it as an insult, I'm sure not many Iraqis use the term as an insult in every-day conversation. They show women the respect the Koran tells them to, which is A-Okay by their standards.

[iamzack]

Taking as an insult is the same thing.

But really, "woman" is an insult in western culture too.

[Unknown Target]

...... at this argument.

[IronBeer]

In before the lock....

[BloodEagle]

But really, "woman" is an insult in western culture too.

You should do stand-up. 

[Bobboau]

I love how the only thing anyone cares about is that he was using woman as an insult.

[Mr. Vega]

Um I'm sorry, but that is just not how you motivate people.

[High Max]

I stopped watching about the third time he used "woman" as an insult.

Are you some sort of feminist? Figures after reading that disturbing topic called preggies. I'll be honest; I read that topic and I really felt disturbed and felt sad. That isn't sarcasm. But enough on that. I don't want to go off-topic.

On topic: I do think that many military people are think they are so smart and the best but they are blinded by patriotism and believe whatever the government feeds them. I'm against the whole invading war games anyways. I don't like real war.

[Nuclear1]

I stopped watching about the third time he used "woman" as an insult.

Are you some sort of feminist? Figures after reading that disturbing topic called preggies. I'll be honest; I read that topic and I really felt disturbed and felt sad. That isn't sarcasm. But enough on that. I don't want to go off-topic.

The preggers thread was a joke from the the #hard-light IRC.

On the same topic, is there something wrong with feminism?

[High Max]

On the same topic, is there something wrong with feminism?

If you like being treated badly and unfairly and like a slave, then I guess not. Since you said that, I have been wanting to say something for awhile but haven't since it isn't part of any topic currently:

Funny thing is that western society talks about how it wants women and men to be treated equally, but if you think about it, if women were treated 100% equally like the west wants, it wouldn't be taboo for a man to hit back and defend himself, but it is ok for the woman to hit a man in many western countries but not vice-versa, so the woman isn't being treated equally like the men but in fact is being treated better than the men in the west. That is one example of what I meant when I said the law sides more with women here in another thread when I talked about certain things. Oh yeah, and in many non-western countries, the women are not slaves, just have different roles. The men work hard too and give their share. I'm not talking about Arab countries either but other non-western countries where there is more balance and women can show their face and dress the way they want.

But this is off-topic. I should watch that video that the topic is about.

[Dilmah G]

Um I'm sorry, but that is just not how you motivate people.

Have you ever served or had a military influence? Everything's allowed as long as you don't hit them in short, and there's little to be racist about, in the USMC, everyone's Green

[High Max]

Darn, it says that to see the video, I must sign in or sign up and that isn't happening.

[Nuclear1]

If you like being treated badly and unfairly and like a slave, then I guess not.

That's just overreaction.  If you're really feeling like you're a slave under the women's rights movement, then you just need to buck up and deal with it.  I agree, Gloria Allred goes too far in a lot of cases, but

Funny thing is that western society talks about how it wants women and men to be treated equally, but if you think about it, if women were treated 100% equally like the west wants, it wouldn't be taboo for a man to hit back and defend himself, but it is ok for the woman to hit a man in many western countries but not vice-versa, so the woman isn't being treated equally like the men but in fact is being treated better than the men in the west.

Wait, so you're saying if a woman physically abuses a man, she is held less liable than vice versa?

[Knight Templar]

So you've never yelled "WOMAN!" at a chick who was being/saying something stupid?

So you're saying "woman" means a person who is stupid?

Yes.

Seriously, these are Arabs. I know you're a teenager in high school, but if you study Arab culture for... 30 seconds? Yeah, that's fair, 30 seconds\and you'll realise that not only is it an insult, but it's also quite descriptive. SURPRISE. American political correctness actually isn't always forced on people across the world, even if American bombs are.

I stopped watching about the third time he used "woman" as an insult.

On topic: I do think that many military people are think they are so smart and the best but they are blinded by patriotism and believe whatever the government feeds them. I'm against the whole invading war games anyways. I don't like real war.

I kinda liked the speech I could see where he was coming from.

Or maybe he was just venting his frustration at perfectly innocent and hardworking policemen who's morale isn't exactly helped by his acting like a 16 year-old douchebag. I don't think there's a chapter in West Point textbooks titled "Making it clear to your men that you despise them and that you're an immature, vindictive asshole" last I checked.

Uhh... what?

You guys assume there's like, some big conspiracy to make Iraqis feel like ****, or to that because the CO in this case is giving a lecture, he thinks he knows better because he's American. No ****. The dude is a soldier. It's his job to 1) be good at war and 2) teach others how to be good at war. These policemen are failing, so he's doing the latter. He sounds a lot like any officer giving a lecture to a subordinate who's ****ed up big time. You got fools playing cop by day, running around in the Sadr City Militia by night over and over, Capt. Go Army isn't going to just ask them nicely once to stop and call it a day.

[ssmit132]

Funny thing is that western society talks about how it wants women and men to be treated equally, but if you think about it, if women were treated 100% equally like the west wants, it wouldn't be taboo for a man to hit back and defend himself, but it is ok for the woman to hit a man in many western countries but not vice-versa, so the woman isn't being treated equally like the men but in fact is being treated better than the men in the west.

Wait, so you're saying if a woman physically abuses a man, she is held less liable than vice versa?

No, he means like if a woman slapped a man because he had just insulted or criticised (or something like that) her, people wouldn't really care, whereas if the opposite happened, people would say the man's a 'woman beater' or something. This is especially evident in television.

It's something that bothers me, too. I think it should be averaged for both sexes (Don't applaud the woman or something like that if she slaps the man, but don't say the man is evil if he slaps the woman). But I think that most men (in that I mean men who aren't the evil type) wouldn't hit a woman, anyway, for fear of hurting her, since we usually see men as stronger than women. But that isn't necessarily true, either, as I've witnessed a girl giving a boy a bloody nose at school before.

But this has nothing to do with the topic.

[Mefustae]

You guys assume there's like, some big conspiracy to make Iraqis feel like ****, or to that because the CO in this case is giving a lecture, he thinks he knows better because he's American. No ****. The dude is a soldier. It's his job to 1) be good at war and 2) teach others how to be good at war. These policemen are failing, so he's doing the latter. He sounds a lot like any officer giving a lecture to a subordinate who's ****ed up big time. You got fools playing cop by day, running around in the Sadr City Militia by night over and over, Capt. Go Army isn't going to just ask them nicely once to stop and call it a day.

QFT.

There's no hidden agenda, there. It's just a group of people getting chewed out by a superior. Nothing new.

[Dilmah G]

Exactly, I fail to see how this is anything new.

[High Max]

If you're really feeling like you're a slave under the women's rights movement, then you just need to buck up and deal with it.

Sorry for the off-topic comment but:

I don't have to deal with it if I get a girl from east or south east Asia who follows her more moral culture more and truly loves me instead of being polluted by western immorality and choices like so many are these days. I don't mean her having to stay at home and all that when I say culture. I don't mind her going out and working if I know she is good and trustworthy and I am careful who I choose (of course I don't want anyone now or at least for now). I'm talking about train of thought and values. I will treat her very well if she was like that to me since women like that know true love and actually consider it very special like I do. I have more in common with the way they think anyways when it comes to balance, health, not smoking, certain interests, being thrifty with their money, being more into education and things that matter instead of soaps, and not caring so much about materialism and not wanting to be rich, and certain values of being faithful, soft spoken and tidy just like I am, and I admire that their food is very fresh and their other good qualities like being feminine and very cute both in looks and personality. Also having a good attitude and stronger emotionally. That's almost impossible to find that around here and I feel bad for them that the USA killed many of their civilians. There had to have been a better way. I think about the women and children in those countries who lost their lives in bombings and I feel anger and sadness towards the country I live in. I guess I haven't completely lost my heart like I think I have sometimes.

What's strange and upsetting though is here in American, they make it their business to invade and control other societies and pollute their cultures where as if other countries did that to this country and came over here, people here would hate it. America never likes a taste of its own medicine and likes to go overboard. When Japan attacked Pearl harbor and killed only military personal, as far as I know, America not only killed 100's of times more and civilians too, but was actually trying to take over Japan and put American flags in sections of Japan and renaming them and trying to put permanent US bases in Japan like some invading parasite, but Japan never tried to do that to American. Maybe they should imagine how these other countries feel and feel bad. I just feel much anger when I think about it. Then USA thinks it is high and mighty and always right when it wrong in so many ways and has the right to go over to Arab countries and force their beliefs and training on others there. Does that sound right. Not to me since I'm not blinded by patriotism.