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Offline NGTM-1R

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I don't have to deal with it if I get a girl from east or south east Asia who follows her more moral culture more and truly loves me instead of being polluted by western immorality and choices like so many are these days.

Value judgement. Back it up.

I don't mean her having to stay at home and all that when I say culture. I don't mind her going out and working if I know she is good and trustworthy and I am careful who I choose (of course I don't want anyone now or at least for now). I'm talking about train of thought and values. I will treat her very well if she was like that to me since women like that know true love and actually consider it very special like I do. I have more in common with the way they think anyways when it comes to balance, health, not smoking,


Tokenism. You seem to be trying to reject your values without rejecting your values.

Also, the smoking comment is friggin' hilarous.  Nothing quite so reveals the depth of your ignorance as things like this.

certain interests, being thrifty with their money, being more into education and things that matter instead of soaps, and not caring so much about materialism and not wanting to be rich, and certain values of being faithful, soft spoken and tidy just like I am, and I admire that their food is very fresh and their other good qualities like being feminine and very cute both in looks and personality. Also having a good attitude and stronger emotionally. That's almost impossible to find that around here :( and I feel bad for them that the USA killed many of their civilians. There had to have been a better way. I think about the women and children in those countries who lost their lives in bombings and I feel anger and sadness towards the country I live in. I guess I haven't completely lost my heart like I think I have sometimes.

You want submission, because you are afraid to be challenged. But you lack the force of will or personality to evoke it, as evidenced by your wandering digressions and your inability to produce a truly cutting or damning remark. It worries me I can assess you at a glance.

It also worries me you're spouting some pseudo-sociopathic bull**** like I used to, considering once upon a time I was made of the same mold as school gunmen and pyschotics, probably saved from it only by the fact that I treated it as a switch to be flipped on and off, and I was always afraid to call on the Void because, to paraphrase a wise man from RPG.net, looking too deeply results in it sucking out your eyeballs, hopping inside, and driving you around like a car.

What's strange and upsetting though is here in American, they make it their business to invade and control other societies and pollute their cultures where as if other countries did that to this country and came over here, people here would hate it. America never likes a taste of its own medicine and likes to go overboard. When Japan attacked Pearl harbor and killed only military personal, as far as I know, America not only killed 100's of times more and civilians too, but was actually trying to take over Japan and put American flags in sections of Japan and renaming them and trying to put permanent US bases in Japan like some invading parasite, but Japan never tried to do that to American. Maybe they should imagine how these other countries feel and feel bad. I just feel much anger when I think about it. Then USA thinks it is high and mighty and always right when it wrong in so many ways and has the right to go over to Arab countries and force their beliefs and training on others there. Does that sound right. Not to me since I'm not blinded by patriotism.

This is foolish, and ignores the historical significance of what Japan was and what it was trying to do. Pearl Harbor was their doom, but the orders for the occupation of Japan came after China, after the Rape of Nanking, after Singapore, after Malyasia, after the Phillipines. The occupation was the sins come to ruin, not out of the blue. It was not unprecedented, it was hardly unjust. This wasn't even a flash in the pan compared to what the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere was. The occupation was also a necessary step to ensure the removal of the Japanese military from the governmental power structure. The goals of the military and the goals of the state must be seperate for a stable country. When all you have is a hammer, as the saying goes.

And whatever else you may think of the US, recognize this: as far as the military arts go, only one country produces better doctrine (the Russians, and we've stolen all their good ideas anyways), and no one manages better practice. (There are some exceptions; I don't think anyone will say to SAS' face that Delta is the better group, for example, but they are small exceptions.) In this context, the Iraqi military its and paramilitary adjuncts is vastly better off to be trained by US soldiers than by others. They'll get the best, from the best.
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Re: US soldier goes ballistic on Iraqi police
You want submission, because you are afraid to be challenged. But you lack the force of will or personality to evoke it, as evidenced by your wandering digressions and your inability to produce a truly cutting or damning remark. It worries me I can assess you at a glance.

And you're assesment of High Max has exactly what value? You got psychological diplomas?
You got anything to convince people that an assesment you make out of 3 sentances he made is worth anything at all? Cause I could read a dozen different things from what he wrote if I wanted to. I can read a dozen different things from what you wrote...want me to pick a few bad ones?

So, unless you can somehow prove that your written diagnosis can be used for anything other than wiping your ass, I'd suggest you keep such remarks to yourself.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2009, 09:14:31 am by TrashMan »
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On the same topic, is there something wrong with feminism?

If you like being treated badly and unfairly and like a slave, then I guess not. Since you said that, I have been wanting to say something for awhile but haven't since it isn't part of any topic currently:

Funny thing is that western society talks about how it wants women and men to be treated equally, but if you think about it, if women were treated 100% equally like the west wants, it wouldn't be taboo for a man to hit back and defend himself, but it is ok for the woman to hit a man in many western countries but not vice-versa, so the woman isn't being treated equally like the men but in fact is being treated better than the men in the west. That is one example of what I meant when I said the law sides more with women here in another thread when I talked about certain things. Oh yeah, and in many non-western countries, the women are not slaves, just have different roles. The men work hard too and give their share. I'm not talking about Arab countries either but other non-western countries where there is more balance and women can show their face and dress the way they want.

OH my god. Are you really so ignorant that you don't realize that the taboo against hitting women is because of the patriarchal view that women are weak and fragile? Guys who claim that they "would never hit a girl" are automatically douchebags.

I have a feeling you are either foreign or very conservative. The whole "equal but different roles (aka separate)" bull**** is nothing but more misogyny.

I can't believe you just implied that feminism means to make men slaves. Are you that threatened by the loss of your male privilege?
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I can't believe you just implied that feminism means to make men slaves. Are you that threatened by the loss of your male privilege?

Maybe he's referring to this (I assume fringe) subset of feminism.
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Yeah, but morons like those exist in every group.
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Offline Dilmah G

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I can't believe you just implied that feminism means to make men slaves. Are you that threatened by the loss of your male privilege?

Maybe he's referring to this (I assume fringe) subset of feminism.

I think that's what clicks when someone says feminism, it did for me at least, and we had a discussion similar to this not too long ago and people made out feminism to be something like this.

 

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That's like believing that Obama s trying to turn America into a socialist state. Seriously.
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I find it ironic that High Max is posting such comments after taking the time out several times to rant against people characterising all Christians as fundamentalists.

Perhaps he should spend less time explaining things to us and more time trying to actually listen to his own advice.
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That's like believing that Obama s trying to turn America into a socialist state. Seriously.

Well it doesn't help that the Fundamentalists' are the ones always on the news/tv/headlines/somethingblackpeopleread

  

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OH my god. Are you really so ignorant that you don't realize that the taboo against hitting women is because of the patriarchal view that women are weak and fragile? Guys who claim that they "would never hit a girl" are automatically douchebags.

See, this is why I avoid women like you like plague.
If I don't hit a women I'm a douchebag that considers women frail.
If I do hit a women I'm an abusive douchebag that wants control.

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The whole "equal but different roles (aka separate)" bull**** is nothing but more misogyny.

I'm sure that to you, everything is.
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I just think that if you find the toilet seat in the wrong position, you should just move it to where you want it, regardless of gender.
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Trashman, you have nothing to contribute to any discussion, do you?

I just think that if you find the toilet seat in the wrong position, you should just move it to where you want it, regardless of gender.

Agreed on that. But many guys need to just sit the **** down. (Like my little brother, who can't seem to NOT pee on the damned toilet itself.)
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See, this is why I avoid women like you like plague.
If I don't hit a women I'm a douchebag that considers women frail.
If I do hit a women I'm an abusive douchebag that wants control.

You can never do right no matter what you do.

How about simply not hitting anyone? :rolleyes:

Iamzack's point is "Why are you singling out women for not being hit"?
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Actually that's not my point at all. Not even close.

It's taboo to hit women like it's taboo to hit children. Basically, the view is that women are the same as children. Weak, fragile, in need of direction and protection, etc.
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Agreed on that. But many guys need to just sit the **** down. (Like my little brother, who can't seem to NOT pee on the damned toilet itself.)

why do you think so many ppl are killed by freindly fire ......... guys cant aim straight
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Perhaps he should spend less time explaining things to us and more time trying to actually listen to his own advice.

If people actually listened to their own advice, the world would be a better place.


It's taboo to hit women like it's taboo to hit children. Basically, the view is that women are the same as children. Weak, fragile, in need of direction and protection, etc.

And you know exactly what I'm thinking when I decide not to hit a women? You KNOW it's because I consider her frail and weak right?
It couldn't possibly be for some other reason?

But that said, women are physicly weaker than men. That is a proven fact, and shockigly, some social norms are what they are cause they work well.
Do women really NEED protection? In this day and age, I'd say not very much, no. Still, is it wrong to want and protect someone? Not at all.
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Some women are weaker than some men. Size, age, lifestyle, etc come into play much more than sex.
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Actually that's not my point at all. Not even close.

It's taboo to hit women like it's taboo to hit children. Basically, the view is that women are the same as children. Weak, fragile, in need of direction and protection, etc.

That's kinda what I meant. Why is single out women as someone you can't hit unless it's to put them in the same group.


That said you have to remember that often when people say that they are talking in the context of someone abusing their spouse. So "I would never hit a woman" is basically "I would never hit my wife\gf\significant other" which isn't the same thing you're on about.

Besides instead of trying to get men to stop saying "I would never hit a woman" you should probably respond with "I'd never hit a man either"

1) That's the sort of thinking people should have in the first place. i.e don't hit anyone
2) It helps point out that spousal abuse can go in both directions
3) The real douchbags will promptly reveal themselves to everyone without need for an explanation by making some stupid sexist comment in reply. :)
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I always hear "I don't hit girls" in the context of girls in general. It makes me want to abuse those guys until they fight back.
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