[The E]

FS2 intro, I think?

[Kolgena]

Yup. Though, it'll just accentuate how ****ty the colossus looks in that segment

Also, is there a way to delete the hangar bay inside this hattie? Sure it's nice and all, but performance is nice too, and you won't be dogfighting in the hangar of a destroyer that much.

[mjn.mixael]

But... but... fine...

[Kolgena]

Haha, I'm just kidding. Obviously, use whatever asset is best at the moment. After all, you can use the old vanilla models as place-holders, and re-render cutscenes when the HTL versions get released, right?  

Also, I found a bug. This may be related to how the Orion and Hecate only get damage lightning in their rear portions, but damage lightning exists only within the hangar space. So, if you happen to be in there while the destroyer is critical, you'll get a sick looking lightning show in the few moments before you're dead from the ensuing explosion. Otherwise, you just hear crackling but will never see actual arcing.

[Rga_Noris]

Yeah, the Hangar will be removed for many reasons. It will only carve off 3200(ish) polys, but I will also be able to drop a texture map as well.

Raginglolis original model had around 36,000 polys. Would not even load in FS2. I curbed it to around 29,000.

Other plans for the next release (next week, most likely.... Tuesday maybe?):

Revised LODs
Tweaked Turrets
Removed Hangar

And the Release after that:

Physical subsystems with damaged counter parts

Someday:

NEW TURRETS! TEH AWSUM.

[Kolgena]

Sweet. Dropping of the hangar should also fix the damage lightning issue.

[Dragon]

Can you create a version with a hangarbay?
It could not be usefull to FSU, but some modders may want to use it in their mods, which can include landing in fighterbays.

[Galemp]

REMOVED HANGAR?!?!?! You wouldn't DARE. Can you detail-box it?

[Rga_Noris]

The issue with the hanger is not really performance, although I would detail box it. The issue lies in compatibility and the damage lightning issue, and the fact if someone DOES make a mission utilizing the hangar, they would have to assure that everyone playing their mission is using the mvp's, possibly even requiring the MVadv to be running. The mission would utterly break for a person who cannot run the new Hatty.

Although I will humor that it is up to the FREDder to tell people they need the HTL Hats.

Okay, everyone, what will it be? No hangar, or hangar?

(BTW, the following are slated for detail boxing: Hangar (should it stay), thrusters, docking point)

[Kolgena]

Thrusters are a must. Aren't they 1k a piece? That and they're invisible unless the ship's disabled.

[The E]

My vote is for a detail-boxed Hattie.

[Rga_Noris]

Detail box isnt up for vote; its going to happen.

The vote is for the hangar.

[The E]

Which is what I meant . Sorry for the unclearness.

[Kolgena]

Hmm. I'd vote for detail box as long as the damage lightning gets resolved in a satisfactory manner.

[Rga_Noris]

I beleive because the hangar would be removed from the main hull, the lightning should fix itself (pretty please!!!)

I reduced the thrusters toa bout 760 polys a peice, but still.

EDIT: I hate you guys. I woke up thinking "Do something productive. Go to Lowes, get some bark dust, make the wife happy". Then I read about improvements for the Hatty. And then I open Blender... and now...

[Redstreblo]

I vote to keep the hanger. The hanger part is not a part of the ship you are likely to be in if the Hatty is sparking. So the fact that you cannot see the sparks from inside isn't really a problem.

Plus it's awesome! 

[Dragon]

The problem it, it's exactly the other way around.
Inside the hangar, there's a lot of sparks, but there are none on the outside.

[Rga_Noris]

So I just made the detail box, and it cuts over 10K from the detail0...

Crappy card owners, rejoice...

[Rodo]

A certain someone said once: "It's easier to remove details than to add them in a finished model".

I vote keep this 100% complete, use as much tweaks as you may need to make it work, and someday.. the engine will be able to tackle the original version.

If it's not possible, then please provide the model file (.blend) for me to save, with textures and all, I'll keep it in my hard drive. (and use it as reference from time to time as well).

Never mind that, I'll keep the original file posted by FSF.

[Droid803]

So I just made the detail box, and it cuts over 10K from the detail0...

Crappy card owners, rejoice...

Yeah detail box is good. You won't see it unless you're basically IN it anyway.