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Offline IceFire

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The funniest thing to come out of this was a couple of people standing up in these town hall meetings (with video cameras everywhere) and equating a public health system with communism.  It seems like very few people actually understand political systems ...because the comparisons are hilarious :)
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"Hello, it's nice to understand that you speak for stupid, can you please tell me what communism stands for, and how this relates to healthcare?"

"Will stupid be running for the next election?"
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Offline Kosh

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The funniest thing to come out of this was a couple of people standing up in these town hall meetings (with video cameras everywhere) and equating a public health system with communism.  It seems like very few people actually understand political systems ...because the comparisons are hilarious :)

What's even scarier is the ones who think Medicare ISN'T a government welfare program (it is, and it is very popular).
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I like when they compare govt regulation of the health insurance industry and govt health insurance to Nazism. OBAMA IS HITLER! HE WANTS TO KEEP YOU FROM GOING BANKRUPT OVER A CAR ACCIDENT!
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I cited two Godwin instances during a three-second clip of that big Washington march on the nightly news.  I found it rather amusing. :p

 

Offline Slasher

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Seriously!  Half of the signs the protesters are carrying seem to be comparing the president to Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Pol Pot, and/or Mao!  I know Bush's detractors included some pretty retarded people but come on...is the president a communist or a fascist?!?!

Or a commuhomonationalsocialmaokenyanislamoterrorprochoicenazifasci st!?!?  Do these people have any concept or histo-*head explodes*

 

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Seriously!  Half of the signs the protesters are carrying seem to be comparing the president to Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Pol Pot, and/or Mao!  I know Bush's detractors included some pretty retarded people but come on...is the president a communist or a fascist?!?!

Or a commuhomonationalsocialmaokenyanislamoterrorprochoicenazifasci st!?!?  Do these people have any concept or histo-*head explodes*
Don't think too hard about these things...it only causes misery :)

You know I think it might be funny to gather some of these hilarious people and take them on a bus tour of Canada and see how "communist" we are with our public funded health system.
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I still haven't figured out what painting Obama's face like the Joker mean. I think it's really funny and witty to some people, but I can't figure out why.

 
This is kind of what you get a few years after a political movement adopts an anti-intellectual stance:  a total loss of historical perspective.  It's easy to compare any politician you disagree with to an oppressor, when you have no understanding of what that oppressor did to gain such a reputation.

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I still haven't figured out what painting Obama's face like the Joker mean.

Apparently (and I'd have to look the article up again for confirmation), the artist came forward and said he made the picture on a lark, and one of his friends took it off his Facebook profile, tacked on the word "Socialism," and thus the poster originated.  Sometimes grassroots politics leads to pretty brilliant campaign material.  Sometimes it appends its message to something unrelated and goes viral.

 

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Well, there's also that amusing interpretation of The Dark Knight which holds that, um, Batman is George W. Bush.
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No. Social conservatives have no place in a free and civilized society. If anything, they advocate moving towards V for Vendetta, not away from it. They only want small government when it benefits themselves and no one else.
implying free society is only to be given to the 'right' people, or should I say the 'left' people, amiright? lol

The funniest thing to come out of this was a couple of people standing up in these town hall meetings (with video cameras everywhere) and equating a public health system with communism.  It seems like very few people actually understand political systems ...because the comparisons are hilarious :)

so taking money from the rich to pay for health care for the poor is not a communist institution?
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so taking money from the rich to pay for health care for the poor is not a communist institution?
You know I was taking the piss when I was posting earlier but HOLY SHEET.
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
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Offline mxlm

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so taking money from the rich to pay for health care for the poor is not a communist institution?
If it is, the GOP is a bunch of commies too, as they explicitly state their support for medicare. In which case the debate over who the  commies are is meaningless; we're all commies.
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I swear communism is synonymous to some swearword over there but not actually the meaning of communism ;\
It's very confusing.
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The Plan, as it is currently written, expressly denies coverage to people who are not US Citizens. However, there is nothing in it about requiring identification as a US Citizen.

Therefore it would be easy as can be for an illegal immigrant to use a phony social security number or other ID in order to get access to the program.

Thus the "You lie!" comment. Having a certain requirement while expressly forbidding any possibility of *verifying* the requirement means that requirement is in fact a complete lie.

Also falling into that category is the "liberals" opposition to verification of eligibility to vote.

American "liberals" have become exactly the opposite of the dictionary definition of the term. I call them restrictionists. They want to put restrictions on how much money one may make through the imposition of punitive taxes. They want to restrict freedom of speech and religion of anyone who disagrees with them. Many of the laws they've gotten passed that were supposed to promote "equality" have instead resulted in restricting the rights of some groups.

For example "Title IX". The supposed intent of it is to provide equal *access* and *opportunity* for female students to participate in sports and athletic activities. What's actually happened with it in many cases is the elimination of programs for male students when not enough females at a school wanted to participate. "Not enough girls want to play? Well then the boys can't either because that's DISCRIMINATION!"

Another favorite of the "liberals" is the "hate crime". They're ever trying to get additional penalties placed on certain criminal activities when perpetrated against a "minority" individual or group. What the concept amounts to at its roots is any crime committed by a white male against anyone with more melanin is a "hate crime", or if the victim is a homosexual.

Our "liberals" are fond of the words "racist" and "divisive". Everyone must play nice together and include men and women of all creeds, colors, genders and sexual orientations in any group. So why is the Congressional Black Caucus allowed to exist? It's an all Democrat, all Black, racist and divisive organization.

Any all male organization is very much frowned upon by our "liberals" but they'll very grudgingly allow it IF there's no racial discrimination... unless it excludes caucasians. That's perfectly OK. They don't bat an eye over an African-American Men's Prayer Group, but if a bunch of white men want to get together, watch out it's the KKK! Women can form any women only group they want, no problem, as long as it all inclusive, or any non-white race only.

We have the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People), the United Negro College Fund, the American Indian College Fund and a laundry list of groups and organizations devoted to helping any non-white race or women or people whose ancestry can be traced to various other countries.

Yet if a group of heterosexual white men attempted to start a college fund for white college students who've taken a vow to refrain from sex until marriage... there's about a dozen sorts of things the "liberals" would call them - all the while the exact same things are just fine with them as long as the persons doing them aren't "white".

There was a Southern high school that for decades, by mutual consent of the students, had quietly held separate off-campus black and white senior proms. A couple of years ago the students decided, on their own, to finally hold a single integrated prom. Ohhhh boy did the "liberal" fur fly then! As if that was the first time they'd ever know about the prior practice. All those years of *discrimination*. Something Had To Be Done! What they were really upset about was that the students had taken care of it themselves and the "liberals" lost a chance to Make An Example of some "white racists".

Finally, if you've heard of ACORN, raise your hand. If you voted for Obama yet never heard of ACORN, where the bleep were you during the campaign?

Google for this

acorn child prostitution

What you will find *should* make you hopping mad at ACORN. Two college students posed as a pimp and prostitute and went to ACORN's offices in Baltimore and Washington D.C. to apply for a home loan and to get some business advice. They used a hidden video camera to record what happened. They were told they could claim her income from prostitution as a "performing arts" business and were told they could deduct various items like condoms as business expenses. Then the students upped the ante, saying they were going to bring in some teenage girls from El Salvador to be prostitutes. The ACORN people never batted an eye, told them they could claim the girls as "dependents".

But what's even worse is in both cases they were BLACK WOMEN calmly giving advice on ENSLAVING under-age girls. I guess they just weren't being discriminatory, or racist, since the two college students were white...

About the only outfit treating this scandal as the major news story it is, is FOX News Channel. The biggest paper in the State I'm in gave it three little paragraphs on page 7, and omitted the worst details.

A good thing that's come of this is the director of the 2010 US Census told ACORN their services were no longer needed. Why was ACORN ever brought on board to help with the Census after their multiple verified attempts at voter registration fraud for the 2008 election?!

If ACORN is happy to aid white slavers, have they also provided funding to garage drug labs? What do they call those? Pharmaceutical research laboratories?

ACORN has received a lot of taxpayer funding and Obama has promised them a lot more. They ought to be at least cut off from public funding. I'd like to see them have to return every penny.

Obama's connection to ACORN? He was one of their top lawyers before he got elected to the US Senate. "Community organizer"? More like criminal organizer.
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I'm pretty sure that video's full of it, since, you know, it talks about child prostitution (what up my Bureau buddies?) and admits only college students were involved in the same sentence.

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Having a certain requirement while expressly forbidding any possibility of *verifying* the requirement means that requirement is in fact a complete lie.

Also this statement is hilarous since you admitted early the plan merely doesn't provide for a check, not forbid it. However as there's money involved and this is going to be set up as a corporation of sorts, a check will evolve nearly instantly. Also, newsflash: current provisions in the plan DO provide for a check.


Title IX? You know what that actually did? It made college football watchable. Better, in fact, than professional. There are no truly crappy college teams anymore, they all got killed off. Because it's the only real big-ticket sport that caused a problem under Title IX. Hell, you should be glad they passed it. It improved the quality of your television. Even I can stand watching college football games these days.
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Offline Bobboau

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so taking money from the rich to pay for health care for the poor is not a communist institution?
If it is, the GOP is a bunch of commies too, as they explicitly state their support for medicare. In which case the debate over who the  commies are is meaningless; we're all commies.
this is not an answer to my question.
republican != conservitive

and bizzybody, if you could just take a moment, draw some diagrams for me, maybe make a chart or two, and maybe explain to me where the ****ING HELL that diatribe fits into the conversation?

god this thread makes me sick.
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bizzybody must be joking. Hate crime, reverse discrimination, FOX NEWS IS THE ONLY TRUTH, ACRON WILL EAT YOUR BABIES...

I mean, almost every single retarded talking point is right there. He only missed "god hates fags," "abortions on demand" and "contraception kills".
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