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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
Furthermore it could also be something like that:

Citizen: "I want to go and live on Earth."
GTVA: "You can't.... there isn't enough room on Earth for everyone of us!"
Citizen: "You're just saying that because you want to keep us here, paying taxes to you!"

and maybe the following too:
GTVA: "Okay... so try it, but the Sol military won't let you."
Citizen: "That's just because they are cooperating with you!"

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
I'm not. I'm arguing that when that desire for immigration exists but government control renders it impossible, civil unrest will result.

That's not what you said. :P Unwanted is pretty clear. Qualify your statements!

EDIT: come to think of it, even if immigration is totally forbidden, given the existence of any privately owned shipping I'd expect a lot of illegal transit anyway. An Argo is huge enough to lose an army in and people are corruptible. Even if all the shipping is state-controlled I'd still expect some, though the probabilities are reduced.

The scanning technology we've seen in multiple FS missions makes this seem unlikely at best. You'd have to subvert too many people to sneak significant numbers of people, enough that anyone in genpop would notice. You have a chokepoint and the means to scan in detail. It's just not going to work except in ones or twos, people you can pass off as extra crew.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
I don't think scanners are going to do the job.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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If the scanners can pick up the exact cargo of a vessel then surely they can pick up the number of lifeforms on board too.
And if a part of the ship is shielded, then go in and check with troops.

 
Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
If the GTVA has such a tight lock down on immigration smuggling illegal immigrants would probably be very profitable. Bribery would be the way to go to get around the customs scanners.
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Offline Qent

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Cargo: Nope, no illegal immigrants here, no sir!

I think it would be hard to distinguish between one small shielded part and something else, say, solid iron ore.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 03:55:06 pm by Qent »

 

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
No, those in a specific area of space who rallied behind a specific leader in a specific movement were.

And you think the most hardcore supporters from other system didn't flock to join the NTF flag? After all, NTF is about "Earth glory" and "anti-vasudanism". Basicely, the GTVA just crushed a large rebellion that had a similar reasoning. (similar enough. anyone hating hte GTVA enough would have reasons to join)

How likely is a second rebellion like that right after the first one? Not bloody likely.. If anything, access to weaponry and security clearances will be even more strict, and the biggest rebellious individuals have already been defeated.



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Here in the US one of the biggest political problems is the violence associated with unwanted immigration. Same goes for Europe.

Happens.

Not exactly the same situation. And hardy a big and violent problem. Once a war starts over something like that, then we can talk.
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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
... I like how far we've got from those poor Ancients. :P:D
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:welcome:
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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
:lol:

 

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
Yeah, should be used to that by now. :P

Ontopic: what would happen if Ancient immigrants would like to go to Sol? ;)
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Offline -Norbert-

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I guess that really depends on what kind of atmosphere they breathe and what temperature they life in.

 

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I figure if they can visit Vasuda Prime and can teach a civilization, they can be able to survive at least in the Saharas. ;)

 

Offline Nemesis6

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
Ontopic: what would happen if Ancient immigrants would like to go to Sol? ;)

Then they'd run afoul of GTVA Security Council Resolution 1070, Deneb Convention!  :D

 

Offline Kosh

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As it so happens, we only really get a pilot's eye view of the whole thing, so we really don't even know how the political situation unfolded after FS1, except that Human splinter groups are apparently unhappy with the situation/are racist bastards.

Actually we do know what happened, the Vasudans had the strong leadership of Khonsu 2 to look to while the Terrans allowed the GTA to completely collapse and mucked about with their little regional nation states.
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Offline Solatar

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While the GTVA is clearly a governing body, do we have any evidence that the GTA was anything more than a military alliance like NATO?  Sovereign states pooling their military forces?

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
While the GTVA is clearly a governing body, do we have any evidence that the GTA was anything more than a military alliance like NATO?  Sovereign states pooling their military forces?

We do not.

In fact, circumstantially, the FS Reference Bible would suggest that interpretation.
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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
citation?
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
Definitely true. GTA was described as being very hands-off in terms of political and cultural power. One of the inspirations for what happened to the GTVA in BP.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: So I've been in touch with V (new FS3 plot tidbit)
citation?
Quote from: FreeSpace Reference Bible
The Galactic Terran Alliance was formed many years before FreeSpace begins.  It’s largely a defense and research organization, and has few domestic influences, focusing it’s attention on matters in outer space, and the exploration thereof.

The Species, Page 29 of a fresh download from the :v: site.
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