[Fury]

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* Fury headdesks

[Shivan Hunter]

Alright, I've got it. Guessing the ending for BP may be difficult, but it will have one quality for certain...

It will be insane.

Battuta says it has to do with a hint present in every mission which is literally staring everyone in the face. Well that can only mean one thing. The constellation Orion. Sitting far off to the side embedded in every single mission's skybox.

Oh how prey tell does Orion fit into all of this? The name of a grandiose Freespace destroyer also the name of a constellation, also the name of some ancient Greek warrior? Well you just keep reading.

Admiral Byrne says the UEF has no chance by winning this war through force of arms, and I believe him because the Fedayeen have something mad in store for the Tevs.

You know who Samuel and Father Bei are searching for at the ending cut scene? Shivans. That's right... they are calling the great destroyer to unleash damnation upon their foes at the risk of civilization itself.

And lest we forget Orion, the iron fist of the Shivans plan to obliterate the failed human race with apocalyptic doom. The Shivans set each of Orion's stars ablaze in a supernova chain reaction while slingshoting the fiery masses of destruction towards several worlds throughout GTVA controlled space by using the gravity of black holes. The Terrans are decimated and plea with the Fedayeen, but it's too late for both of them, because neither one is in control of their fate any longer.

The Shivans invade and do what they do best. They eradicate Terrans, Vasudans, UEF forces... all life must be purged.  The GTVA UEF coalition of the damned are helpless to stop the Shivan threat which encroach upon their systems through both time and space. Using newly upgraded 'youcannotgetawayfrommenowsuckers' drives.

Thousands.... no wait... millions no wait... countless Vishnan warships emerge to bring balance to this otherwise impossible and reckless foe, for what is there to preserve if life does not exist. The physical plane of space is overwhelmed by the endless number of consistently warping ships such that the universe fragments into infinite dimensional planes of existence and space as we know it has morphed into continuous vibrating wavelengths of energy, without position and without dimension. Subspace is not subspace and time is not time. A broken equation, an ultimately incalculable scenario. The Vishnans have completed their task of preventing the universe from going off balance because an undefined equation can never yield 'false'.

You were worried about supernovas? Well prepare to be blown into the next universe, because this primal form uncontained energy is the recipe for a second big bang. A universe reset.

Boom.

Billions of years later, every subatomic particle falls into its rightful place and events take their course, moving and shaping themselves into fantastically an exact copy of the previous universe. Time manifests the events of the second universe right up until the point where the war in heaven begins. The Vishnans saved the universe, the first time... Will it happen again?

Spoiler:

Yes because this time the GTD Imperiose fails to jump in and the GTD Cartheage gets destroyed.

I know, I guessed everything. Call me Sherlock Holmes.

lol wtf

[ION3]

Wouldn't it make sense for there to be less info on GTVA stuff since you're flying for the UEF so you would have info on all your weapons but only some captured intelligence on GTVA weapons?

We're talking really basic info here. Should be available for all weapons which happen to be avaiable for hands on testing.

[Rodo]

I'm thinking...

Humans either turn to be the new "destroyers", or the new "great caretakers".

Though I think it's too lame to be just that, still... I can live without knowing and I would hate myself from guessing it earlier anyway.

[crizza]

My guess: The vasudans support the UEF...

[Shivan Hunter]

I'm thinking...

Humans either turn to be the new "destroyers", or the new "great caretakers".

Though I think it's too lame to be just that, still... I can live without knowing and I would hate myself from guessing it earlier anyway.

Remember AoA? The vishnans at least think Humanity/Vasudanity show potential to be the Brahmans' replacement.

My guess: The vasudans support the UEF...

did you play the last half of WiH

[Snail]

did you play the last half of WiH

Well they might switch sides but that might be a little unlikely.

[Rodo]

And what are those Brahmans exactly?
I'm guessing they are an ascended race, but aren't Vishinans the same thing?, and what about Shivans?

[Snail]

And what are those Brahmans exactly?
I'm guessing they are an ascended race, but aren't Vishinans the same thing?, and what about Shivans?

This will probably be deconstructed in the campaign, but initially at least:

Shivans - Destroyers
Vishnans - Preservers
Brahmans - Creators

[thedjstu]

brahmans were the great creators.

My bet is that the UEF is constructing some sort of subspace gate akin to the inter-system gates we see being used in nearly every mission (that being the element that is "staring us all in the face") with the crucial difference that instead of transiting you somewhere within the sol system it transits you to sol systems in other dimensions.

So, essentially, the UEF plan for victory runs like this.

1) Hold off GTVA forces while building dimensional subspace gateway.
2) Once gateway is finished, quickly establish relations with parallel universe UEF forces
3) Assuming a large enough number of universes the UEF now has an utterly insane number of warships to commit to the fight.
4) GTVA gets the **** kicked out of it a never ending stream UEF ships. 

[Rodo]

Some unique plot twists have been proposed

[Snail]

brahmans were the great creators.

My bet is that the UEF is constructing some sort of subspace gate akin to the inter-system gates we see being used in nearly every mission (that being the element that is "staring us all in the face") with the crucial difference that instead of transiting you somewhere within the sol system it transits you to sol systems in other dimensions.

So, essentially, the UEF plan for victory runs like this.

1) Hold off GTVA forces while building dimensional subspace gateway.
2) Once gateway is finished, quickly establish relations with parallel universe UEF forces
3) Assuming a large enough number of universes the UEF now has an utterly insane number of warships to commit to the fight.
4) GTVA gets the **** kicked out of it a never ending stream UEF ships. 

I agree with everything except the last 3 lines of your post. The last part wouldn't really do the whole narrative justice.

[Solatar]

Shivans = Sanskrit
Vishnans = Sanskrit
Brahmans = Sanskrit
UEF ships = Lots of Sanskrit names

[Snail]

i think the vishnans become evil and the shivans become good guys


and then laporte and sam have a fist fight with quicktime events

[T-LoW]

A second big bang - that would be so awesome

[Snail]

Also about the "deepness":

your creators blundered once and in doing so unleashed the deepness that stalks the cold roads of the cosmos

Kind of gives you a clue as to what it is.

[Hades]

Some unique plot twists have been proposed

[-Sara-]

Another theory I have is that the UEF (with help from the Feyadeen) may want to actually make the Shivans return and Laporte is the key to do so. If the Shivans return, the GTVA will be forced to join up with the UEF and the other way around. The Ubuntu council will be up to the difficult task of bringing the GTVA into 'enlightment' so that they are spared (the Shivans seem to attack races which are at war). If they can proof to the Vishans that the Terran race has changed, perhaps they are granted mercy by the Shivans and can start taking on the great responsabilities of the Brahmans.

[-Norbert-]

I'd like to see a showdown between the Atreus and a Solaris class destoyer. No side has the advantage.
Suddenly Vasudans jump in, with at least one destroyer.
Steele says something along the lines of "Hahaha you stupid pacifists. Now you are finished".
The Vasudans warm up a beam and *bam* blow the Atreus' engines apart.

Now a little speech from the Vasudans about how they found out the truth about how Steele manipulated them with the help of the GEVs and that he would now die for his crimes.
After that the Solaris and the Vasudans pound the Atreus into spacedust.

[Satellight]

I'd like to see a showdown between the Atreus and a Solaris class destoyer. No side has the advantage.
Suddenly Vasudans jump in, with at least one destroyer.
Steele says something along the lines of "Hahaha you stupid pacifists. Now you are finished".
The Vasudans warm up a beam and *bam* blow the Atreus' engines apart.

Now a little speech from the Vasudans about how they found out the truth about how Steele manipulated them with the help of the GEVs and that he would now die for his crimes.
After that the Solaris and the Vasudans pound the Atreus into spacedust.

I like this theory because it would compensate my helplessness felt during Delenda Est. I don't prefer much the GTVA or the UEF, but I was really frustrated by this feeling of "OMG I can do anything to save my friends", even if I know there is ONLY a videogame, that was a particularly moving moment. But ! It's maybe a little bit manichean and our anti-Zods people will themselves...