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Offline IronBeer

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Ach, the waiting's killing me! I've had my copy pre-ordered for a couple months, but I've no time to pick it up any time soon. Soon, though... soon I shall join the battle!
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Offline Klaustrophobia

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i haven't bought it, and that's exactly why i asked. i only bought BF2 on a whim because it was $10 at best buy, without knowing anything about it other than it was a modern combat FPS game.  at the time, the thought that there would be a big-name multiplayer only game never even occurred to me. 
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I've got Origin, and I'm probably going to buy it soon. Unfortunately, since I missed out on getting... something... with the pre-order, I'm going to have to wait until some sort of sale or package deal to come along before I do. Any clue if EA might do something like the Steam winter sale?

  
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If you bought BF3 for the single player campaign with no intention of trying or "getting into" the multiplayer, I'd say you've been robbed Klaustrophobia.

More like the robber of your own wallet.
But yeah, what he said. BF3 is a MP game with some singleplayer tacked on to stop you from getting bored if you lose connection. But is an awesome game to actually get into MP gaming, I geuss. I mean - BC2 was awesome. BF3 will probably be more awesome.

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And BF3 seems not only to lack the VOIP of BF2 / BF 2142, also the Comm Rose lacks some commands like "Need Medic" "Need Ammo" "Jump Out" ect...

Due to massive BF2 fan reqeust, the comm rose is going to be added in soon after release. Might be that it has already. Recontutta?

 
I've got Origin, and I'm probably going to buy it soon. Unfortunately, since I missed out on getting... something... with the pre-order, ...

The first expansion pack?

 

Offline General Battuta

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Due to massive BF2 fan reqeust, the comm rose is going to be added in soon after release. Might be that it has already. Recontutta?

It's in, but it really sucks. Doesn't put up any text notice, just a tinny voice that's almost impossible for other players to notice. And you can't even ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED

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Due to massive BF2 fan reqeust, the comm rose is going to be added in soon after release. Might be that it has already. Recontutta?

It's in, but it really sucks. Doesn't put up any text notice, just a tinny voice that's almost impossible for other players to notice. And you can't even ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED

ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED
ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED
ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED
ENEMY B-ENEMY B-ENEMY B-
-OAT-OAT-OAT SPOTTED

F1, F2

 

Offline The E

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So, for those of us able to understand german (or the google translate version), here's a bit of a chuckle:

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/battlefield-3/artikel/analyse_zur_eula_von_ea_origin,45612,2561554.html

Basically, german games mag Gamestar got a lawyer to analyze the Origin EULA. To noones' surprise, several of its clauses violate german consumer law. Will be interesting to see what happens there.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Will that mean it gets pulled from the shelves? If so, that sucks. How the hell did they manage that? Youknow, I used to wish I could read German, E.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: that looks funny to read :D

 

Offline The E

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No, it won't mean that it will be pulled from the shelves. It does however mean that the EULA is, in most areas, null and void (german consumer law stating that if a clause violates the law, that clause is void in its entirety).
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Offline Pred the Penguin

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So people in Germany can 'distribute' the game to their hearts content legally?

 

Offline The E

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No, that is still prohibited under the normal rules and regs for businesses that this covers.

The thing is, in Germany, EULAs are equivalent to the AGB (Allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen), which is basically the terms of service for a given retailer. The issue here is that clauses in those terms of service have to be worded in a specific way to be as understandable as possible, they have to adhere to the framework set by the BGB (Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch, the code of laws covering everything that is not a criminal offense), and they have to adhere to commmunity standards.

In addition to all of the above, they have to be balanced so as to not impose undue burdens on the customer, they have to be unambiguous, and if they cover stuff that could potentially violate someone's privacy, the relevant sections have to be highlighted. And finally, a clause that would be surprising to a customer (i.e. one that isn't intuitively obvious from societal precedents), is right out. For example, the stipulation in the Origin EULA that you do not have the right to resell or make copies of the software is OK. The stipulation that all legal issues should be handled according to UK law is not.

If a given clause (or parts of one) fails any of these tests, it is invalid in its entirety. Not the entire document, mind you, just that clause. If it is ambiguous, the default interpretation to fall back on is the one most benefitial to the customer.
Oh, and on top of all that, the customer needs to be made aware of all the stipulations in the EULA before making the purchase, which is basically impossible when buying a copy through retail.
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In Battlefield 2 it was a wrench :)
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Offline Gortef

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Still no BF3 for me... *sadpanda* :(

Though they did say in Play.com when I preordered the game back in February that the delivery time is 3-5 days... I still feel bad about not having it YET.
Habeeb it...

 

Offline Bob-san

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Quick, the tank's on fire! Get the welding torch!
In Battlefield 2 it was a wrench :)
So it'd be like Engineer whacking someone upside the head with a monkey wrench.


Anyways, I've been playing a bit recent. I've been rocking in air combat--jets especially. I think I'm doing alright at it, too. I brought up my joystick (Logitech X3D) and it works alright. A hell of a lot more control and finesse than a mouse and especially a keyboard. It's still like flying through jelly but far better than before. It kinda sucks that I'm ineffective against ground troops but I really think EA ought to un-nerf that aspect. Infantry has handheld AA and AA turrets and there's also AA armor.

What's really fun is, in a chopper, to shoot jets down. I've done that once or twice. It's surprising how few people will hop into AA emplacements though.
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It's surprising how few people will hop into AA emplacements though.

Yeah, this is the case in BC2 too... In the Heavy Metal map, no one bothered with getting that AA position at "B". When I got in there, I got the Ace pin :D.
Its also great for shooting infnatry and some AA cannons actually work against Tanks. That is how the allies lost "market garden".

 

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It's surprising how few people will hop into AA emplacements though.

Yeah, this is the case in BC2 too... In the Heavy Metal map, no one bothered with getting that AA position at "B". When I got in there, I got the Ace pin :D.
Its also great for shooting infnatry and some AA cannons actually work against Tanks. That is how the allies lost "market garden".
Snipers kept me from using that too often except in very short bursts at a passing helo and then back down under cover.

In Battlefield 3 there are more opportunities to kill some aircraft with the mobile AAA tanks and AAA positions.
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Offline Bob-san

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It's surprising how few people will hop into AA emplacements though.

Yeah, this is the case in BC2 too... In the Heavy Metal map, no one bothered with getting that AA position at "B". When I got in there, I got the Ace pin :D.
Its also great for shooting infnatry and some AA cannons actually work against Tanks. That is how the allies lost "market garden".
Snipers kept me from using that too often except in very short bursts at a passing helo and then back down under cover.

In Battlefield 3 there are more opportunities to kill some aircraft with the mobile AAA tanks and AAA positions.
And portable AA.

I was flying earlier today and it was annoying how often I'd get locked onto. Jets are ineffective against armor (especially early on) so it's not like I could even hunt down the mobile AA.
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