[Mars]

Nahemas. I was playing around with UEF ships in Forced Entry.

(it doesn't work, because UEF ships are so fast, they usually departed before they could be attacked.)

[Mars]

Alright, took a few screenshots in game.




Looking over at the 15th from a Carthage escort



The UEF Armada.



The view of the Home Fleet from the Marcus Glaive



Approximated Terran destroyer fleet and some escorts.

[PsychoLandlord]

Goddamn, that would be a pretty (and short and incredibly stupid) fight.

[Mars]

Goddamn, that would be a pretty (and short and incredibly stupid) fight.

lol yup. And unless you have a $10,000 rig, it'd be about 4 fps.

I actually went and named all of the UEF ships that are named, and organized them into detachments, and I realized something - Sanctus cruisers are EVERYWHERE.

Does the GTVA have that many cruisers? And if not, why don't they have more corvettes?

[MatthTheGeek]

GTVA has more or less stopped to mass-produce cruisers. Those they currently have in service are a few Great War relics (Fenrises in backwater systems, a few Leviathans as destroyer escort), some Aeoluses that are still in production and the new Hyperions as heavy gunboats, and that's it. I'd expect the GTVA shipyards to produce more Deimoses than any other capships.

They probably have much more corvettes than what we see on your last picture Mars.

[Mars]

GTVA has more or less stopped to mass-produce cruisers. Those they currently have in service are a few Great War relics (Fenrises in backwater systems, a few Leviathans as destroyer escort), some Aeoluses that are still in production and the new Hyperions as heavy gunboats, and that's it. I'd expect the GTVA shipyards to produce more Deimoses than any other capships.

They probably have much more corvettes than what we see on your last picture Mars.

I actually figured, the number seems to run with a 1-4 cruisers and 5 corvettes per destroyer, which is petty compared to the UEF's 20 cruisers + 11 frigates.

[-Norbert-]

The problem with those numbers isn't that the UEF has so many escorts per destroyer, but rather that they have so few destroyers. Most of the time UEF fleets work independently while their destroyer sits at the homebase sending fighters their way if necessary, so you can hardly compare that with GTVA battlegroups.

lol yup. And unless you have a $10,000 rig, it'd be about 4 fps.

Yes, it would show 4 FPS, because that's the lowest the counter can go. But considering "massive battle" it would be more realistic to measure in SPF (seconds per frame) 

[MatthTheGeek]

Most of the time UEF fleets work independently while their destroyer sits at the homebase sending fighters their way if necessary, so you can hardly compare that with GTVA battlegroups.

Well, that's how GTVA battlegroups operate too. Unless you have front-line desties, you don't send your Hecate do the dirty work.

[Jellyfish]

Why so many Hecates?

[Darius]

Approximated Terran destroyer fleet and some escorts.

Those numbers are around about how I imagined the Galactic Terran destroyer strength to be by the time of AoA. Good call

[General Battuta]

There are probably still a few more Orions and stuff.

[Darius]

Yeah, substitute a few ships here and there but it's not a bad approximation.

[-Sara-]

I'd assume that for every 2.5 GTD Hecate's there's still 1 GTD Orion in service or such?

[MatthTheGeek]

Probably that or less. Orions are oooooold. There are probably no more than 5-6 or them, and I guess half of those are holding up with Duct Tape(tm).

[PsychoLandlord]

The Carthage was decently scary, so I figured the GTVA might have a few more retrofits like her lying around somewhere.

[MatthTheGeek]

I don't think there are that many combat evaluation destroyers around. The idea behind experimental tech is that you don't spread it around until it's ready to be mass-produced. And building a Hecate is probably cheaper than doing a major refit on an Orion like the Carthage.

[The E]

Not that many. The Carthage is a special case, as it was almost completely rebuilt following the Nebula campaign and recommissioned as a testbed for new tech. The other Orions are closer to the standard spec.

And yeah, it's easier to build new Raynors and Titans than it is to bring every remaining Orion to the Carthage standard.

[Destiny]

I'm curious though, is the Phoenicia and the Aquitane in there?

[General Battuta]

Yes, both those destroyers are still active.

Keep in mind that nothing in this thread should be taken as canon until it turns up in a release.

[Destiny]

Aye, captain.

What happened to the 14th Battlegroup? "Departed Sol theater hours after commencement of hostilities." doesn't really...say anything other than they just...well jumped somewhere.