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Offline Destiny

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
If the Raynor started firing anti-ship Trebs or long-range Helioses instead...although Supernovas are probably going to be more practical. The standard GTM Trebuchet, if you mount it on a Raynor, it can spew them out non-stop, and cannot be shot down. But it lacks the flags to let it damage big ships. If the Trebs are properly targeted at enemy fighters and bombers, or TAG-A'd for the Trebs...scary thought, ain't it?
« Last Edit: March 31, 2011, 01:26:33 am by Destiny »

 

Offline Snail

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
A missile phalanx destroyer would be cool. Maybe using one of the old HTL models, like the Typhon or something when the Vasudans get involved.


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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
A missile phalanx destroyer would be cool. Maybe using one of the old HTL models, like the Typhon or something when the Vasudans get involved.


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did we discuss this at some point or did you come up with it on your own

 
Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
FFFUUUUUUUU I meant to say Supernova, not Apocalypse! Let me rephrase my question: Can Raynors use Supernova missiles instead of the lame Eos's?

 

Offline Snail

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
did we discuss this at some point or did you come up with it on your own
May well have made it up, not really sure.

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
FFFUUUUUUUU I meant to say Supernova, not Apocalypse! Let me rephrase my question: Can Raynors use Supernova missiles instead of the lame Eos's?
I don't think the BP team wants the Raynor to have too much firepower, actually. Plus...it's not stated if Supernovas are SSM strike-capable, IIRC. I wonder if the Raynor regularly fires Eoses into subspace for storage when it's not shooting?

 

Offline Buckshee Rounds

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
FFFUUUUUUUU I meant to say Supernova, not Apocalypse! Let me rephrase my question: Can Raynors use Supernova missiles instead of the lame Eos's?
I don't think the BP team wants the Raynor to have too much firepower, actually. Plus...it's not stated if Supernovas are SSM strike-capable, IIRC. I wonder if the Raynor regularly fires Eoses into subspace for storage when it's not shooting?

Wah? You mean like using subspace as a cupboard? I don't think it works that way.

  

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
The mysteries of Hammerspace solved!

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
FFFUUUUUUUU I meant to say Supernova, not Apocalypse! Let me rephrase my question: Can Raynors use Supernova missiles instead of the lame Eos's?
I don't think the BP team wants the Raynor to have too much firepower, actually. Plus...it's not stated if Supernovas are SSM strike-capable, IIRC. I wonder if the Raynor regularly fires Eoses into subspace for storage when it's not shooting?

Wah? You mean like using subspace as a cupboard? I don't think it works that way.
I mean, it would look REALLY weird if you fired TAG-Cs at a ship while the Atreus was sitting 45 klicks away...not firing it's Eoses. And suddenly, wham, a buncha Eos torps hit that enemy ship.

 

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
That would be tactical SSMs. There are two kinds of SSM strikes, tactical and strategic. Tactical strikes are launched from a ship in the same mission space as the target. Strategic SSMs are launched by vessels that are not present in the same mission as the player. The latter kind is the only one the GTVA has used to date.
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Offline Buckshee Rounds

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
FFFUUUUUUUU I meant to say Supernova, not Apocalypse! Let me rephrase my question: Can Raynors use Supernova missiles instead of the lame Eos's?
I don't think the BP team wants the Raynor to have too much firepower, actually. Plus...it's not stated if Supernovas are SSM strike-capable, IIRC. I wonder if the Raynor regularly fires Eoses into subspace for storage when it's not shooting?

Wah? You mean like using subspace as a cupboard? I don't think it works that way.
I mean, it would look REALLY weird if you fired TAG-Cs at a ship while the Atreus was sitting 45 klicks away...not firing it's Eoses. And suddenly, wham, a buncha Eos torps hit that enemy ship.

Well from what we've seen it has to be set up in advance. Some form of AWACS needs to be on hand, presumably to get the subspace jump as accurate as it is then the TAG-C paints the target. I assume once it's painted then the Eos' are fired, enter subspace, then exit around the target. Presumably the firing ship has to be close for the missiles to show up as quickly as they do, going by the time delay from TAG hitting target and missiles showing up.

Is it possible to make said delay larger? To simulate the firing ship is a wee bit further away?

Ninja'ed.

 

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
Second attempt: Is the VasPulse more powerfull then the TerPulse? Because it was stated, that vasudan technology is more advanced then that of the terrans...it should, shouldn't it?^^

 

Offline Mars

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
Second attempt: Is the VasPulse more powerfull then the TerPulse? Because it was stated, that vasudan technology is more advanced then that of the terrans...it should, shouldn't it?^^

Actually the relative power won't necessarily mean much, since Vasudan ships usually mount different numbers. I'm looking it up now though

Quote from:  TerPulse
$Fire Wait:                  0.5
$Damage:                     175
$Damage Type:                NormalWeapon
$Armor Factor:                  1.3
$Shield Factor:                  1.0
$Subsystem Factor:               0.3
$Lifetime:                     2.4
$Velocity:                     1200.0
$FOF:                     0.75

Quote from:  VasPulse
$Fire Wait:                  0.35
$Damage:                     100
$Damage Type:                NormalWeapon
$Armor Factor:                  1.3
$Shield Factor:                  1.0
$Subsystem Factor:               0.3
$Lifetime:                     2.64
$Velocity:                     1200.0
$FOF:                         0.75
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TerPulse is more powerful in damage / second terms, so far.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2011, 01:31:58 pm by Mars »

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
All Vasudan stuff will probably get tweaked when the next-gen Vasudan weapons suite gets worked up.

 

Offline crizza

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
Oh...when I freded my little missions, I thought the VasPulse was better...but in my opinion, it most certainly lokks better...crimson tears of destruction^^

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
Looks are deceiving, you know. Even TerSlashes are better than SGreens.

 

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
Unrelated questions:
The GTVA figured out torpedoes are the main weaponry of most large UEF capships.
Why haven't they deployed more AWACS in support of their capships, like they did with the Hood, to prevent those torpedoes from launching?
Why haven't they, in all those months of war, developed better PDS or APS?
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
Unrelated questions:
The GTVA figured out torpedoes are the main weaponry of most large UEF capships.
Why haven't they deployed more AWACS in support of their capships, like they did with the Hood, to prevent those torpedoes from launching?
Why haven't they, in all those months of war, developed better PDS or APS?

They have, you'll see some.

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
Threat Exigency Initiative was developed after Capella blew up. Shivans do not use torpedoes. We've been fighting beam-armed ships for ages, and projectiles do not defend against beams.

The AWACS is probably FREDder.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP Tactical Discussion (formerly Warship Inflation)
FRED is canon!