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How much would you contribute towards a Kickstarter aimed at acquiring the FreeSpace licence from Interplay?

< $10
14 (20.9%)
$10 - $100
38 (56.7%)
$100 - $250
7 (10.4%)
$250 - $500
5 (7.5%)
$500 - $1000
1 (1.5%)
$1000 - $10k
0 (0%)
$10k+
2 (3%)

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Offline Seraph

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
Planescape Torment is getting a sequel now: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/planescape-torment-sequel/

This is ridiculous. So many beloved '90s franchises are being revived. Why should FreeSpace deserve any less?

 

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
Planescape Torment is getting a sequel now: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/planescape-torment-sequel/

This is ridiculous. So many beloved '90s franchises are being revived. Why should FreeSpace deserve any less?

Bit of a necro there

There defiantly deserves to be another game in the FS franchise IMHO though some here would disagree with that on a number of grounds.  The thing is that the situation is a legal mess with a certain degree of the rights held by Interplay (who wont play ball on selling the rights from what we can tell) and :v: owned by THQ (another publisher) and being one of its most successful brands they wont be be relinquishing :v: any time soon.
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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
Except THQ's probably going to get broken-up and sold-off at this point.
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Offline headdie

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
Except THQ's probably going to get broken-up and sold-off at this point.

in that case :v: will probably be sold off to EA or someone like that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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Offline FireSpawn

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
Except THQ's probably going to get broken-up and sold-off at this point.

in that case :v: will probably be sold off to EA or someone like that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
Except THQ's probably going to get broken-up and sold-off at this point.

in that case :v: will probably be sold off to EA or someone like that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

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Why not? We'd have Freespace published every year like Battlefield.
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
You call that optimistic ? The best thing that could happen to Freespace is that it never gets published anymore, ever. EA or otherwise.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

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Offline SypheDMar

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
In all seriousness (which BengalTiger wasn't being), I concur with BengalTiger to a point.

 

Offline Apollo

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
I personally would not want to see an official conclusion to the FreeSpace narrative. It would immediately invalidate all the SCP team's hard work and the storylines of every single post-capella mod.

As far as I'm concerned, FSO and FS3 are one and the same.
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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
I personally would not want to see an official conclusion to the FreeSpace narrative. It would immediately invalidate all the SCP team's hard work and the storylines of every single post-capella mod.
Let's just save us all a lot of trouble, and say that this can only happen if any individual decides it's so for them. It is not automatic. None of the post FS1 campaigns were invalidated by FS2, same would be for a hypothetical FS3. It might make it awkward, but wouldn't "invalidate" any mods or campaigns. This has been suggested many times before on this subject.

 

Offline SypheDMar

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
I personally would not want to see an official conclusion to the FreeSpace narrative. It would immediately invalidate all the SCP team's hard work and the storylines of every single post-capella mod.
It's been discussed to death, and the short answer is, "only if you let it."

 

Offline KyadCK

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
Planescape Torment is getting a sequel now: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/planescape-torment-sequel/

This is ridiculous. So many beloved '90s franchises are being revived. Why should FreeSpace deserve any less?

Probably because we never died.  :nervous:

Seriously, mods like BluePlanet, Wings of Dawn, The Antagonist... These aren't good enough? Even on an engine that packs more features then some big-name games, and includes everything you need to make your own including a helpful community that can assist you and maybe even add features to the engine for you?

Not to mention, being OpenSource is one of FreeSpace's strongest assets. If a new game was made, it would eventually be outdated. No longer enough. FSO can continue to grow, out lasting and becoming stronger then any closed-source engine given enough time.

In my opinion, we do not need a sequel. As it stands, we can make our own ending, which is more then can be said for most games these days. And if what someone makes an "ending" you don't like? Well, it's just a mod, right? Find one you like more. ;)
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
It's been discussed to death, and the short answer is, "only if you let it."
No. The only answer is "we don't need any of that ****". We don't need any new official Freespace release. Ever. End of discussion, please evacuate the thread.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

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Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
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Offline Ulala

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
What about, instead of another sequel, they made a genuine attempt at a reboot? It could suck, or it could be good like the new XCOM Enemy Unknown (not exactly the best comparison, I know). Just trying to think outside the box a little. :D
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
The "it could suck" risk is waaaay too high for any kind of potential gain. "We don't need any of that ****" still stands.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

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Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Mongoose

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
It's been discussed to death, and the short answer is, "only if you let it."
No. The only answer is "we don't need any of that ****". We don't need any new official Freespace release. Ever. End of discussion, please evacuate the thread.
May I kindly suggest that you refrain from unilaterally setting the parameters of the discussion going forward?  Kthx.

 

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
It's been discussed to death, and the short answer is, "only if you let it."
No. The only answer is "we don't need any of that ****". We don't need any new official Freespace release. Ever. End of discussion, please evacuate the thread.
May I kindly suggest that you refrain from unilaterally setting the parameters of the discussion going forward?  Kthx.

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Offline Ulala

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
The "it could suck" risk is waaaay too high for any kind of potential gain. "We don't need any of that ****" still stands.

Oh..... ok.
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Offline Apollo

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Re: A chance for FS3 with the help from kickstarter ?
I personally would not want to see an official conclusion to the FreeSpace narrative. It would immediately invalidate all the SCP team's hard work and the storylines of every single post-capella mod.
It's been discussed to death, and the short answer is, "only if you let it."

Yeah, I guess if you're willing to ignore canon it wouldn't affect them. It would kill immersion for me, but that's just the way I perceive things.

Let's just save us all a lot of trouble, and say that this can only happen if any individual decides it's so for them. It is not automatic. None of the post FS1 campaigns were invalidated by FS2, same would be for a hypothetical FS3. It might make it awkward, but wouldn't "invalidate" any mods or campaigns. This has been suggested many times before on this subject.

At this point, any mod with a storyline that doesn't contradict the established narrative can claim a small amount of canon plausibility, even if it will never become a canonical reality. FS3 would eliminate that and throw every post-capella campaign into alternate-universe territory, thereby invalidating their storylines in a canon sense.

And let's not forget that if FS3 was moddable enough (and it might well be) it would either (A) compete with the SCP and split FreeSpace mods between two different programs, making it significantly harder and costlier to play all of them, or (B) eliminate the SCP all together.

I stand by my original statement that FSO is a perfectly good, non storyline-crushing substitute for FS3.
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