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Offline z64555

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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
Is it possible to make a petition to have the Govt. kick the asses of the signers of the secession petitions? You know, not the kind of kick that causes any real physical harm but is still humiliating?
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
WHEN (IN THAT POST) DID I SAY I WAS SURPRISED FOR ****'S SAKE

At this point I'm just making fun of these idiots signing the petition.

I'll just not post in this thread anymore. on the forums until finals week is over and my mental coherence re-stabilizes... hopefully. by the way, **** finals
« Last Edit: November 14, 2012, 12:39:51 am by sigtau »
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/set-alaska-free/5ZRwL9nC

Anyone who has a whitehouse petition account should sign this one, for the grammarnaziishness, and the  preservation of our precious bodily fluids, and also FREEDOM!
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
Signatures needed by December 12, 2012 to reach goal of 25,000
23,941




 :lol:

The white house will probably need to address a whole bunch of these **** petitions.

It's 22,677 needed now. So it's growing fairly quickly too. :D

12,071 now. 13 hours for ~10500 signs, nice.

    • Texas 68K
    • Louisiana 28K
    • Florida 20K
    • Georgia 19K
    • Alabama 19K
    • Tennessee 19K
    • North Carolina 18K
    • South Carolina 15K
    • Arkansas 14K
    • Colorado 14K
    • Indiana 13K
    • Michigan 13K
    • Mississippi 12K
    • Kentucky 12K
    • Missouri 12K
    • Arizona 11K
    • New York 11K
    • South Carolina 11K (duplicate)
    • Oklahoma 11K
    • Oregon 10K
    • Missouri 10K (duplicate)
    • New Jersey 10K
    • Montana 10K
    • Georgia 9K (duplicate)
    • North Dakota 9K
    • Pennsylvania 7K
    • Nevada 6K
    • California 5K
    • Ohio 5K
    • Delaware 4K
    • New York 4K (duplicate)
    • Wyoming 4K
    • Utah 4K
    • Oklahoma 3K (duplicate)
    • Alaska 3K
    • Kansas 3K
    • Pennsylvania 2K (duplicate)
    • Nebraska 2K
    • Strip possible secessionists of their citizenship 1K
    • West Virginia 1K
    • Deport possible secessionists 1K
    • South Dakota 1K
    • Ohio <1K (duplicate)
    • Utah <1K (duplicate)

    That's a LOT of petitions. 42 petitions presumably representing the citizens of 36 states in favor of possible secession.

Yay, my state isn't on the list of idiots! (yet)
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
I always knew Texas would be at the forefront of something stupid like this whenever it rolled around. Things are going far, far, faaaaar too well in this country for secession to be even the least bit remotely thinkable of an option. As has been stated before: this is merely a more obnoxious form of the "I'll move to Canada!" sackless ultimatum, and these attitudes are symptomatic of some very bad political polarization, not sure if causative or not.

Edit- I'd definitely not take this turn of events seriously. It is worth keeping tabs on, however. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in groups, and it's potentially easy to motivate groups of stupid people.
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
Oh my ****ing god you are an intelligent person. Why are you in any way surprised by this. Why have you failed to employ the most basic statistical reasoning, ****

You would EXPECT these people to be distributed evenly if youi've glanced even once at an electoral map. It would only seem statistically abnormal if they were all in one state. WHY ARE YOU REMOTELY SURPRISED YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SMART. ****

Calm. The ****. Down.

Yay, my state isn't on the list of idiots! (yet)

I'm actually surprised mine isn't either.

Of course, it seems that no one ever gives a damn what New Mexico thinks about anything anyway. Hell, there are some people in the US who don't even realize we exist!
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
amazingly while texas wants out, puerto rico wants in as in become a state from territory. :P
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
Of course, it seems that no one ever gives a damn what New Mexico thinks about anything anyway. Hell, there are some people in the US who don't even realize we exist!

i think the federal government fist ****s everyone's state. and needless to say most of the things that need to be canned to fix the economy are federal. so i can see reducing the federal government. of course people dont want ideas that make sense, they want it there way or on fire (my way or on fire isn't much different)
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
As has been stated before: this is merely a more obnoxious form of the "I'll move to Canada!" sackless ultimatum, and these attitudes are symptomatic of some very bad political polarization, not sure if causative or not.

There was an image doing the rounds before the US election of people threatening to move down here to Australia if Obama won, just to shake up the equation, I guess. Those conservatives would love it here, with our female, atheist prime minister, plummeting church attendance and publicly funded health-care. :D

As for the actual topic, it remains weakly lol-worthy at best. I look forward to many more similarly toothless petitions every time you lot elect someone who's not a complete parody of a politician. :D
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Offline newman

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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
It's kind of funny to see a bunch of self proclaimed US patriots jumping at the first perceived chance to break it in half :)  (assuming that people voting for this are mostly in the far right camp).
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
Bernanke completely floored the senator there. He was just completely oblivious to what even happened, and apparently many outsider observers were as well. It just went through many people's heads.

PS: Anyone who doesn't understand why banks receive loans of near zero percent rates and credit card people receive loans of (insert how much more) percent rates, should never even be allowed to waste precious time and opportunity to ask actual questions of your Federal Reserve chairman.
Why put so much faith in Bernanke? He was put in a position of power and, it seems, abused it.

I understand WHY they received the loans, but that doesn't make the loans RIGHT or CORRECT. The real issue, to me, is that many of these loans were made at 0% or 0.25%--and were reinvested in US Treasury bonds at greater rates. Money from nothing, quite literally. It was lent to them by a bank empowered to do so by the US government.

Not all Federal Reserve chairmen are so loose with their programs. Bernanke made a Keynsian mistake that resulted in a tripling of the US monetary supply while attempting to keep inflation near 0%. The two goals are mutually exclusive, of course.

You'd better spend your time in places where you can actually learn real macroeconomics, rather than listening to the ludicrous voices of the monetarists or their proxies like Ron Paul and other ridiculous men. The real kicker in your comment is the last paragraph, where you state that the two goals (tripling monetary supply and keeping inflation near 0%) are "mutually exclusive" as if those ideas had anything to do with what has been happening. But for a funny retort, I'd just remind you that the current inflation is below 2%. Where is the hyper inflation monetarists have been banging about for almost a decade now?

No, the real problem we face under a depression is deflation. And under the threat of deflation, you go loose in your money supply. This is not "Keynesianism". This is straight ****ing Milton Friedman basic macroeconomics 101. Bernanke comes from a background of having studied Friedman's ideas about the Great Depression, and, if anything, has been rather conservative and too cautious about the loosening of money supply.

I am no fan of Bernanke, but these ridiculous pseudo-bull****s that spread around the nets about the role of central banks and issues about currencies and so on really piss me off. Because they aren't marginal. As we have seen in that video, it's somehow managed to become "common knowledge" that senators really believe has a grain of truth. It's pure unadulterated really *dumb* bull**** instead.

 

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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
Are people actually taking these petitions seriously?

They don't represent the populace of these states at all (people from outside of the related state can sign it) and this is just a load of buttpained conservatives whining in defeat. Nothing will happen, and there really isn't a whole lot to discuss. The WORST I could see are a few worthless militias trying to form, and then getting curbstomped by their state's own national guard units/police the moment they start trying to "rise up" against the "oppressor."

I mean, how often does New Hampshire threaten to secede? Then what happens when they realize giving up that Federal money reserve would bankrupt them the instant they left?
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
... the wider the gap between the parties the more political energy ends up getting wasted on tug of war politics, and less goes to actually solving problems...

... All of this energy and potential for communication and potential for actual WORK getting done is getting wasted on bile and vitriol going back and forth between adherents of both dominant political parties...

Just as planned.

It's hard to maintain status quo and ensure your place in the ruling class if the people are aware of real problems and banding together to fix them.
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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
According to the list of signatures that Bob-san posted on the 13th, and assuming that every signature is an individual, the total number of people in favor of secession is only slightly more than half the population of Austin, Texas. (454000 vs 820611 as of July 2011)

 

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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/outlaw-offending-prophets-major-religions/94kL1tsN

**** free speech man!
This petitions can be so silly.

i take my right to blaspheme prophets, their gods, and the religions built around them very seriously. You take that away and i might have to jump in with the secessionists.
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Offline Mikes

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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
According to the list of signatures that Bob-san posted on the 13th, and assuming that every signature is an individual, the total number of people in favor of secession is only slightly more than half the population of Austin, Texas. (454000 vs 820611 as of July 2011)

Maybe you can let them seperate Austin into East and West Austin and let the secessionists build some kind of wall around themselves? ;)

Ok bad pun...

 

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Re: Twenty states threaten to secede from US
Not necessarily a bad idea though. Might be easier than building a dedicated asylum for all of them.

 

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At least you'll increase your exports...
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