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Offline Lorric

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Thinking further ahead, if fleets continue to come through the portal, the special fleet can flee through the contested adjacent system, and resupply. This could turn into a similar situation to the Flag Fleet, where we're going to have to strip all it's escorting fleets away before we can kill it.

EDIT: Quoting my last post for the new page.

I decided to follow up on the calculation for the special fleet with both fleets attacking it. With the 2nd DD retreating, the Special fleet on the 4th CRF following the attack on the Special Fleet…

4th CRF Fleet:
Fighter attack strength: 16+8=24 (16+2+2)
Capital attack strength: 16+8=24 (17+2)
Fighters at 76% Strength, 3rd Gen
Capital ships at 80% Strength
Morale: Very High

Special Fleet:
Fighter attack strength: 30+10=40 (40)
Capital attack strength: 19+15=34 (25)
Fighters at 75% Strength
Capital ships at 74% Strength
Morale: Normal

End Strength:

4th CRF Fleet:
Fighter attack strength: 10+5=15 (16+2+2)
Capital attack strength: 10+5=15 (17+2)
Fighters at 36% Strength, 3rd Gen
Capital ships at 46% Strength
Morale: Very High

Special Fleet:
Fighter attack strength: 27+9=36 (40)
Capital attack strength: 17+14=31 (25)
Fighters at 67% Strength
Capital ships at 66% Strength
Morale: Normal

Second Attack (if it has one), End Strength:

4th CRF Fleet:
Fighter attack strength: 0 (16+2+2)
Capital attack strength: 5=5 (17+2)
Fighters at 0% Strength, 3rd Gen
Capital ships at 15% Strength
Morale: Very High

Special Fleet:
Fighter attack strength: 25+8=33 (40)
Capital attack strength: 15+13=28 (25)
Fighters at 62% Strength
Capital ships at 61% Strength
Morale: Normal

Now the concern here is a subspace missile barrage from the 2nd Fura/Zy finishes off the 4th CRF and the special fleet uses action 3 to take Sol.

There are two solutions. Either the 2nd DD does not retreat (and meets death), or the attack must be called off.

The 4th CRF can survive two attacks and a subspace missile barrage just barely if there is no attack. It will have a small single digit number capship strength left.

Of course, we don't know if it can attack more than once, but I don't fancy rolling that dice with losing the game the price if it can attack twice.

Also, we must make sure it can't get out of Sol. With three actions, it can simply run away and resupply. This shouldn't be too difficult as long as we have fleets resupplying in both adjacent systems.

 

Offline Flak

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If we just are to stall them, it is better to aim for 4th Hertak instead. It won't be destroyed of course, but it will severely weaken the doomstack.

 

Offline Lorric

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If we just are to stall them, it is better to aim for 4th Hertak instead. It won't be destroyed of course, but it will severely weaken the doomstack.
I'm asking to stall the special fleet, not the Doomstack. I'm hoping for an offensive on the Doomstack to kill the 3rd Cordi then the 4th Hertak.

 

Offline Spoon

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Deadline is this coming Friday!

Quote from: Lepanto
Spoon, if you're reading this, and it's not too late, I'm switching my Attack order to Defend.
I am reading it, you are not yet too late (you still have a whole week to change your orders!). You cannot order a defense in a contested system. Also I believe you still have a promotion trait you can choose from.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 01:43:28 pm by Spoon »
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[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 

Offline Lorric

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DJ, I know your fleet isn't in good condition, but please attack the 2nd Fura/Zy. Doing so with the other two will ensure it's destruction. It will not be able to flee without destroying itself. You won't die, unless the special fleet moves in to kill you, and If the special fleet were to destroy you, you would have made a great sacrifice, as our supply lines would be open, and we could make sure the special fleet never again enters Sol.

 

Offline Lepanto

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If I can't defend, I'm thinking about just staying still and using Zeal this turn, to minimize my fleet's damage this turn. Does Lorric or anyone else have a better idea?
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Offline Lorric

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If I can't defend, I'm thinking about just staying still and using Zeal this turn, to minimize my fleet's damage this turn. Does Lorric or anyone else have a better idea?
That is what you should do. You are all that stands between us and defeat...

 

Offline Lepanto

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K. My new orders: Zeal, then do nothing.
"We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely, to talk about poverty and inequality, to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug."
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Offline Lorric

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K. My new orders: Zeal, then do nothing.
:yes:

I've noticed that Spoon seems to be receptive to creativity in regard to orders. Maybe we can think of something. You could put something about training for defensive warfare or something maybe. Or try to learn a new skill.

 
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Mirroring Lorric's orders for now. I don't remember whether that's the best course of action, but I can't really check the thread right now :/
If anyone has any objection, please do object.

 

Offline Lorric

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Okay people, we’ve got till the end of Friday. Who’s left… 3 people.

Flak, you know you have a fleet now, right? The 1st LSF. When I made my plan, I proposed attacking the Nordera, but just holding them would probably be okay also, so I won’t be concerned if you miss the turn.

Hartzaden. Will you please come back to Lyrae? We really need you back here.

Mobcdmoc3. Could you take the 3rd SF to Virgo please? You’ll be getting ready to whoop some ass next turn with the mighty 3rd DD hopefully.

That’s the people who haven’t taken a turn. Of the people who have, CommanderDJ, I’m going to bump this again:

DJ, I know your fleet isn't in good condition, but please attack the 2nd Fura/Zy. Doing so with the other two will ensure it's destruction. It will not be able to flee without destroying itself. You won't die, unless the special fleet moves in to kill you, and If the special fleet were to destroy you, you would have made a great sacrifice, as our supply lines would be open, and we could make sure the special fleet never again enters Sol.
Even if you still don't want to attack, what's the point of Defending? Nothing will be coming to Formalhaut. I really want you to attack, but if you don't, then it would be better to Resupply twice.

Finally, X3N0-Life-Form, your second action made me smile widely. Let us face death with defiance! :nod:

 

Offline CommanderDJ

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I must've missed your post the first time. Sorry about that. I've adjusted my orders.
[16:57] <CommanderDJ> What prompted the decision to split WiH into acts?
[16:58] <battuta> it was long, we wanted to release something
[16:58] <battuta> it felt good to have a target to hit
[17:00] <RangerKarl> not sure if talking about strike mission, or jerking off
[17:00] <CommanderDJ> WUT
[17:00] <CommanderDJ> hahahahaha
[17:00] <battuta> hahahaha
[17:00] <RangerKarl> same thing really, if you think about it

 

Offline Lorric

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I must've missed your post the first time. Sorry about that. I've adjusted my orders.
Thank you.

That's going to look pretty damn good on the turn video I think. Three of our fleets, Fura'ngle and Zy. :)

 

Offline Lorric

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I was thinking about advising Hartzaden not to choose Inspirational Leader, since a CRF fleet can pump itself up to Zealous without it. But then I thought of something, and Spoon, I don't know if you'd be willing to go for it, but I think it would be a pretty cool idea if a CRF Fleet with Inspirational Leader could rise to a state above Zealous. I'm not saying it because I'm a CRF Admiral, I don't have the trait anyway. I don't think any other CRF fleets do, do they?

Of course, thinking of something to describe a state above Zealous... what would that be? Very Zealous? :)

 

Offline niffiwan

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Fanatical :)
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Offline Lorric

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Fanatical :)
I'm not keen on Fanatical as it has a bit of a stigma attached to it these days. It makes me think of suicide bombers and maniacs and madmen and extremists and such. It would however work, and I suppose it's a minor detail.

Actually, how about Supreme?

Morale: Supreme

 

Offline Flak

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What should I do? Hit the Nordera, pull back, or just engage in a Mexican standoff with them?

 

Offline Lorric

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What should I do? Hit the Nordera, pull back, or just engage in a Mexican standoff with them?
My instinct is for you to weaken them up so Droid can come around and hopefully finish them with no big boom.

Maybe I can calculate it, but I say if you're asking, go ahead and bloody their nose.

 

Offline Veers

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Hartzaden, I'm not going to mention anything regarding orders as its already been requested.

But Please CHANGE your requested Trait. Inspirational Leader is useless for us in the CRF due to our special ability: Zeal, which when used, bumps up our moral rating by +1. I used my Zeal at the beginning of the game (and it can be used again after two turns), but my Moral has never fallen below Zealous (+3), which is the highest level.

It's been like that the entire game. You are much better off choosing a different trait.

Please please please, change the trait!

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Offline Lorric

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I think Hartzaden can actually choose two traits, can't he? The first all-CRF promotion occured in Torchwood's absence.

I believe Lepanto can also choose another trait. His fleet was destroyed during the first all-CRF promotion and he never chose one, but he should still be able to take one.

All CRF fleets should have two traits now.