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Offline Lt. Spanks

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Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
I know there is only one.
*Sad music plays*

Where is it location wise in the solar system. As canon as possible

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Offline Lt. Spanks

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
And yes there is a typo in the subject :rolleyes:
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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
From the ending cut-scene of FS1, the node is pretty close to Earth's moon. I'd say probably 1/4-1/3 of the Earth-Moon distance outside of the orbit of the moon (i.e., further from the Earth).

 

Offline BirdofPrey

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
Which is weird since all the other nodes we've seen have been in the middle of nowhere.

Also FS1 map shows 3 nodes
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
We have no idea how nodes relate to the motion of other objects in the system, so saying it's near the Moon may not actually mean anything most of the time; it was near the Moon at that exact moment.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
IIRC some nodes moved around from FS1 to Silent Threat to FS2.

 
Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
Sol was supposed to have jump nodes to Delta Serpetnis, Beta Aquilae, and Deneb in FS1. Guess the Lucy explosion created some kind of subspace disturbance or whatever that disrupted all 3 nodes.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
I don't know if it was actually officially retconned but the other two were generally considered to have never existed outside of FS1 command briefing animations. What I'm talking about is jump nodes in actual missions. I seem to remember two nodes were placed at a close distance in FS1 and beyond visual range in ST or FS2, but I could be wrong.

 

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
Volition's official node map shows only one node out of Sol, and :v: declared that it superseded the game. See here for more information.
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Offline wardog300k

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
I think that best places for all three nodes(which i do consider canon)would be Delta Serpentis-near the Moon
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                                                                                                                             Deneb-near the Pluton
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Offline Lt. Spanks

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
I know there is only one functioning one, just where is it at.
I think i will end up just placing it somewhere in the far reaches of Sol. I know it might be little bit non canon, but I feel like that is the place to put it.
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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
it's really hard not to answer this with BP fluff because BP Thinks Of Everything and its answers are always really slick
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Offline Sololop

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
Didn't BP put the node out near Neptune, iirc?

 

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
Didn't BP put the node out near Neptune, iirc?
The location of the node after the activation of the Sol gate is irrelevant to the location of the node before the Lucifer's destruction, because the Sol gate changes how the node operates.
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<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
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<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

Offline Lt. Spanks

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
I sort of remember seeing earth in the cut scene where the Lucifer comes out of subspace and is destroyed, but it wouldn't be that close.
I'm just going to put it in the Kuiper belt, far out of the way, or perhaps near Jupiter
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
In my function as an Advanced FreeSpace Analysis System I have processed all the canonical data I could find about node positions and the best-supported (but not only viable!) hypothesis is that nodes do not obey classical orbital mechanics. Stick it anywhere you want and move it around as you please, because that **** don't orbit, it moves around according to some peculiar subspace logic.

 
Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
I was thinking about mooting the idea that artificial relocation of subspace nodes is easy enough that the Sol one was just parked above Earth for convenience, but I've quickly decided that the tactical can of worms that opens is too disruptive to the setting.
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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
In my function as an Advanced FreeSpace Analysis System I have processed all the canonical data I could find about node positions and the best-supported (but not only viable!) hypothesis is that nodes do not obey classical orbital mechanics. Stick it anywhere you want and move it around as you please, because that **** don't orbit, it moves around according to some peculiar subspace logic.

I tend to like that premise because it explains why no one set up permanent defences around nodes. It's pointless trying to set up a defence system if the node is going to end up moving away from it.
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Offline BirdofPrey

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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
In my function as an Advanced FreeSpace Analysis System I have processed all the canonical data I could find about node positions and the best-supported (but not only viable!) hypothesis is that nodes do not obey classical orbital mechanics. Stick it anywhere you want and move it around as you please, because that **** don't orbit, it moves around according to some peculiar subspace logic.
The why I have been thinking about it is that nodes are (relatively) fixed in relation to the star.  The problem is that EVERYTHING ELSE is moving.  Planet X isn't going to be near the node all the time, and if you tried blockading the node, you'd have to expend a bunch of propellant to counteract gravitational forces trying to move you away from the node.
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Re: Where Be Dat Earth Subspace Nodes
Maybe it would be possible to place sentries in  the actual subspace tunnels. Obviously you can't put mjolnirs in there as capships exploding would collapse the node(or maybe you could configure them to only cripple enemy warships without destroying them), but the subach-armed sentries would be pretty good at picking off recon wings going through the node.
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