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Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
I dont know how, but I somehow completely missed the previous update being posted at all. The forum didn't show the thread as having any new messages for me.
And now I'm just going "hory ****" when I see what the submarines are doing to those poor nipponfreighters.

Those 'enemy fleets dominate the xxx seas' messages seem to give a pitful amount of VP?
Wow, they gain 5vp! meanwhile your subs are all like:
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STILL ATEN'T DEAD JUST ON HOLIDAY.

Actually surprised the Tsingtaou raid did not get a single response. Go on, The_E, write something fun!  :p

Sorry about that, but all I was coming up with was a dramatization of the Tsingtaou battle, which I think would've been boring as hell. I have an idea for the next thing though....
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STILL ATEN'T DEAD JUST ON HOLIDAY.

Actually surprised the Tsingtaou raid did not get a single response. Go on, The_E, write something fun!  :p

Sorry about that, but all I was coming up with was a dramatization of the Tsingtaou battle, which I think would've been boring as hell. I have an idea for the next thing though....

I immediately had a mental image of Tsingtaou: a film by Michael Bay.

Widely bombed by critics for being boring as hell.  :p ;)
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Those 'enemy fleets dominate the xxx seas' messages seem to give a pitful amount of VP?
Wow, they gain 5vp! meanwhile your subs are all like:


Also this is interesting.

The 'enemy fleet dominates' messages are, essentially, warning messages. No invasion may begin in an area where you don't have naval superiority; so, this is the game's way of telling you "you are not contesting the invasion-capable enemy fleet in XXXX area. Either bring something there to block them, or do not complain if they start taking your goodies."
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Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Ah, so it's "dominates" as in "the uncontested leader" and not "dominates" as in "consistently and brutally annihilating your dudes".

 
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Keep in mind the only dudes of Enioch's that are actually there are the submarines who are doing a brilliant job of sinking any merchant vessel with the rising sun on it.  When the actual battle fleet finishes rebasing to Tsingtao, Enioch's beloved boatgirls from the prior LP are going to start dying in droves.
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"The neutralisation of the Japanese power in the South China Sea is a necessity for us. The Japanese, whether manipulated into this war by our perfidious enemies or not, have struck at us without warning, and threatened the safety of our citizens and our great Reich's interests in the Far East. A peace, therefore, can -and must- only be concluded when their power is well and truly broken; when they can pose no threat to Germany any more."

"From the moment the first shot was fired, we did not wish for a tentative peace; a peace that would burden us for many decades and would draw us ever back to the Far East. We wish for a peace that will allow us a free development and security for our new blood, in Europe and overseas!"

-Excerpt from a Parliamentary speech by Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler, 6th September 1913.



September rolls in; the R & D department submits designs for even more efficient pumps. The Moltke incident is still a black mark in the Admiralität, and focus is still primarily given to safeguarding ships from torpedo attack; or, at least, preventing them from succumbing to it. Especially against the dastardly Japanese!



In addition, Galster and Büchsel work together to streamline and introduce new fleet cruising formations; formations that will facilitate rapid deployment into line-of-battle if attacked by light forces.









They are still underway and experimenting when the first reports for the month start coming in. The death toll for the U-Boote includes a modern Japanese destroyer and a coastal patrol vessel; not to mention ten merchantmen. The Japanese counter-offensive is weak, in comparison: they are clearly still unfamiliar with the intricacies of underwater warfare.





And, with regards to their surface raiders, the arrival of the German Schlachtkreuzer on-station sounds the death-knell for the light Japanese cruisers. The Izumi is tracked down by Wittelsbach, which is faster and infinately better armed and armoured; the Japanese cruiser is lost on the 26th of the month, trying to sneak into the Marianas hunting grounds.





But the Japanese draw blood in return. Despite the warnings of the Admiralität, the Heer had pushed on with the proposed Korean offensive. They had smashed headlong into one of the most fortified and fanatically defended territories in the world. Casualties were horrendous; and the resulting rout tarnished the reputation of the Army for years. It fell to the Navy to pick up the pieces and, in some cases, even evacuate stranded personnel, after the inevitable Japanese counter-attack. This tied down the fleet in regrettable but necessary land support operations; establishing a tight blockade on the Japanese Home Islands was, unfortunately, delayed.







That said, the U-Boote were not idle. Wolfpacks sank fourteen Japanese freighters, some of which were valuable tankers meant to resupply the Korean offensive; and U-108 engaged in a victorious duel with a Japanese patrol vessel.







The Japanese strike back ineffectively. Their submarines are undersupplied and badly maintained; one of them is lost to German patrol vessels after one of only two successful ship attacks. Their raiders are, similarly, rather unsuccessful in their efforts. Naniwa runs down the Vogel, a seven-thousand ton freighter in the South Pacific; and the Itsukushima surprises everyone when she, somehow manages to sneak into the Mediterranean and sink the Nordsee off Sardinia. Schlachtkreuzer from the Atlantic are deployed to intercept her; somehow she manages to escape. It is suspected that the British garrison at Gibraltar provides her with support, but that is never established beyond doubt.





Meanwhile, by the end of the month, the Wittelsbach returns to her anti-raider patrols, and nabs the Unebi off Singapore.



November; the Admiralität puts into effect its plan to establish a blockade and starve the Japanese into surrender. First, submarines are dispatched, to clear the sea of patrol vessels;



And then an all-out assault on Japanese merchant shipping is unleashed, with devastating results.

Finally, the fleet departs its harbours in the Southern Pacific and sails north. Galster, from on board the Hindenburg, has intercepted Japanese communications that speak of a large convoy moving to resupply Korea, under heavy escort. He wishes to engage and sink it; and to cause as much damage to the Japanese battle-line as he can.



This is the first time (but not the last), that a Wittelsbach-class Schlachtkreuzer will see combat. Germany holds her collective breath.



It is the 12th of November; and Arcona, sailing ahead of the German fleet, spots the enemy convoy south of the Korean peninsula. The local time is just before noon; the weather is cloudy, but the atmosphere is clear and the Germans have more than seven hours ahead of them until nightfall. The enemy spots Arcona in return, as the German cruiser accellerates to intercept; and they immediately turn towards the north. The rest of the German battlefleet is almost ten thousand yards behind Arcona; Hindenburg and Derfflinger are leading, with the older Victoria-Louise cruisers (including Hertha, now for the first time ever not flying Galster's flag) bringing up the rear.



Arcona continues her stellar scouting work; twenty minutes after first contact, she has identified a Hashidate light cruiser...



...and, inside the panicked ball of Japanese merchantmen, she also makes out the larger hulls of...



...a Yashima-class battleship...



...and the Fuso, the oldest Japanese battleship currently in service. Both ships are British-built, with 12-inch guns; they are almost half the size of the Wittelsbachs, with less than half their broadside and can only make 18 knots to the German behemoths' 25. Sadly for the Japanese, they are, indeed, the heaviest ships they can field.



Arcona slows down and allows the battle-line to overtake her; the two Schlachtkreuzer lumber past her at flank. Their batteries are already training to take the Japanese predreads under fire. Meanwhile, the cruisers are opening fire on the transports, who, in turn, are peeling off towards the north-west.



Galster will not allow them to escape. He turns his battle-line to the west, in pursuit; and lets his secondaries hammer the transports, keeping his main guns on the enemy capitals. His Zerstörer flank from the east; and they blanket the convoy's path with torpedoes. An hour after the first shot is fired, four enemy transports are burning.



The Japanese battleships turn towards the east, to escape the guns of the Wittelsbachs; but that brings them near the Zerstörer. The V5 screams past the Yashima at a range of under two thousand yards - and one of her torpedoes hits the enemy battlewagon on the aft.



Her rear turret jams, and the Schlachtkreuzer train their guns away from her (they can catch up to her anytime, after all) and focus on the Japanese heavy cruiser Asama, to the north.



Galster is vaccilating. The convoy is long-sunk, but he does not wish to close the range against the Japanese forces. The enemy still has several destroyers available; and all his ships are armed wit torpedoes. He brings the fleet around, trying to take stock of the situation.



And then, a massive fountain of water erupts from the side of the Fuso. Galster is stunned. That's a torpedo strike, but there are no German Zerstörer within torpedo range of the foundering Japanese ship.

The explanation is simple, but hard to believe. The torpedo is Japanese. One of the Japanese destroyers loosed her torpedoes against the closing German Zerstörer, but failed to perceive that they would cross the Fuso's path.

The end result is appalling. The Fuso has already taken some accurate fire from the Schlachtkreuzer; the powerful Japanese torpedo hits her amidships and cracks her hull like a nut. She rolls over and sinks in under four minutes, taking more than half of her crew of a thousand down with her.

The Yashima is now alone, against two of the most modern warships in the world.



As she tries to escape towards the east, the Schlachtkreuzer move north, taking the armored cruiser Asama under fire and scoring several hits. The Japanese ship fires back; her shells bounce harmlessly off the Hindenburg's armor.



Almost three hours into the fight; Derfflinger's gunnery officers report that her magazines are half-empty.



But the Asama, now under fire by Hertha and her sisters, is a floating wreck, her engines dead and her turrets knocked out.

The Schlachtkreuzer move to intercept the Yashima-



-and then, a Japanese DD redeems its brethren with an insanely lucky successful long-range torpedo strike on the Derfflinger. Water fountains well over the port broadside, as the warhead buries itself in the Schlachtkreuzer's torpedo bulge. Alarms blare all over the ship; and damage control crews scramble to the stricken area.



The verdict is...surprisingly optimistic, and a testament to the successful implementation of underwater torpedo protection by the Germans. The torpedo hit just at the forward end of the bulge, flooding two underwater compartments, and the front turret of the ship falls silent, as the loaders are ordered to evacuate and flood the magazine, for safety reasons. But the actual flooding is controlled. Watertight doors are holding and the bulkheads are strong. The damcon crews scream at the bridge to cut speed for emergency repairs; the Derfflinger slows to her cruise speed of 16 knots. She is still faster than the battered Yashima.



But Galster will not risk a second lucky strike, or a capital ship loss. Derfflinger is ordered to detach and sail away from the battle, until they have the flooding under full control; the Hindenburg, on the other hand, takes up pursuit alone, cruising past the drifting hulks of the battered convoy.



The Germans are well-acquainted with the necessary damcon procedures by now. Ten minutes after the torpedo strike, the flooding on Derfflinger is pretty much dealt with.



And, shortly after, the Yashima's bow slips quietly, almost anticlimactically, under the waves, after a savage pounding at the hands of Hindenburg. Dusk is falling, after a four-hour battle; Galster signals his forces to retreat. He is too canny to risk a nighttime pursuit of the Japanese light forces.



The German forces sail into their harbors in Northern Korea, tired yet satisfied. This is a great victory. The Japanese now have no battle-fleet worth the name (their first dreadnought is more than a year away from completion). They have lost their two pre-dreads and the Asama-class cruiser Tokiwa, as well as the entirety of the resupply convoy; in return, they've scratched the paint on Hindenburg and three Zerstörer, and dealt some damage to Derfflinger that is easily repairable.



Hindenburg is clearly MVP, with over six hundred rounds fired and more than thirty confirmed hits on target; Derfflinger follows suit with over five hundred shots fired and twenty-odd hits. The old cruisers have emerged entirely unscathed from the fight, but only Vineta has made any meaningful contribution, with eleven hits scored. The Japanese performed abysmally from a gunner's perspective, with only four heavy hits received by the German ships. In total. Over four hours of combat.







The Battle of Southern Korea is a great victory and the Wittelsbachs have survived their baptism of fire with flying colours! The Admiralität celebrates, when the news reach Germany.



It is no surprise when the Japanese sue for peace. They are starving and their fleet -their lifeblood- is gone, with the exception of a few raiding cruisers and a couple of old, turn-of-the-century heavy cruisers.



What is surprising is that, even after a month of negotiations, they still reject Germany's terms.


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I STILL ATEN'T DEAD.

I AM ALSO BACK. MUAHA. HA. :arrr:
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Was the repeated screenshot at the end there intentional?

ALso YAY IT LIVES
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YOU SAW NOTHING.

ALSO, YOU OWE ME OMAKES. GET TO IT.
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Nippon steel no match for german engineering

What do the flooding numbers mean? Like, what kind of number is really bad flooding?
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No absolute numbers are bad.

Flooding equals tons of effective flotation lost to flooding every minute. So, if your ship effectively displaces 31000 tons, and you 'lose' 75 of them every minute....that's not too bad.
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Ubootwaffe causes the seas run clear with Sake, and well just about everything else the Japanese attempted to ship.

Dreimal hoch für Unterseeboot!



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Torpedo Officer Sasaki glanced between his notepad and the map in the center of the bridge, and up at the Captain. "Captain. The enemy destroyers are very close, and very tightly packed."

"Do you think you can hit at this range?"

"I doubt we'll hit, honestly, but I feel it's worth a chance to at least distract them. We've already worked a solution, and we await your orders only."

Captain Nakajima considered it for only a second. "Fire."

The pneumatic mechanisms clanked and hissed, and a single torpedo dropped into the water. Its engine kicked on, and it sped away like a hungry tuna. From this range, it was all the Destroyer Fumizuki could do against the huge German fleet.

"Captain!" Lieutenant Kato shouted, "Fuso is turning to port!"

Nakajima swung his binoculars left to find the Fuso. Drawing on long experience, he did a mental calculation, and determined that its new course brought it dangerously close to the path of their torpedo.

"Radio Fuso immediately! Order them to cut throttle and turn hard to starboard!"

20 painful seconds later, the communications officer reported, "Fuso is not responding! Their radio may be damaged."

"Send a flare and use the signal lamp, then!"

The officer bolted off the bridge, and climbed onto the platform above. A moment later, the pop of a flare gun could be heard. Nakajima watched Fuso helplessly, waiting for a response from their signaler. And there it was. A quick series of flashes: Roger. Changing course.

Fuso didn't appear to change course at all, but that was to be expected from such a large ship. It would take several seconds for the rudder to even shift over in the best of circumstances, and these were hardly ideal.

The bridge crew were silent, and the sounds of battle seemed to fade away. After what felt like an eternity, a mountain of seawater and fire erupted over the bow of the Fuso. The torpedo had struck near the bow of the warship, ripping a gaping hole in the side of the ship. She started to tilt forward immediately. The crew of the Fumizuki watched in horror.

"Set... Set course for the Fuso, full speed. Prepare to rescue survivors." Nakajima let no emotion into his voice.

"Sir. That will bring us into range of the enemy guns."

"I know. Do it anyway."

 

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Torpedo Officer Sasaki glanced between his notepad and the map in the center of the bridge, and up at the Captain. "Captain. The enemy destroyers are very close, and very tightly packed."

"Do you think you can hit at this range?"

"I doubt we'll hit, honestly, but I feel it's worth a chance to at least distract them. We've already worked a solution, and we await your orders only."

Captain Nakajima considered it for only a second. "Fire."

The pneumatic mechanisms clanked and hissed, and a single torpedo dropped into the water. Its engine kicked on, and it sped away like a hungry tuna. From this range, it was all the Destroyer Fumizuki could do against the huge German fleet.

"Captain!" Lieutenant Kato shouted, "Fuso is turning to port!"

Nakajima swung his binoculars left to find the Fuso. Drawing on long experience, he did a mental calculation, and determined that its new course brought it dangerously close to the path of their torpedo.

"Radio Fuso immediately! Order them to cut throttle and turn hard to starboard!"

20 painful seconds later, the communications officer reported, "Fuso is not responding! Their radio may be damaged."

"Send a flare and use the signal lamp, then!"

The officer bolted off the bridge, and climbed onto the platform above. A moment later, the pop of a flare gun could be heard. Nakajima watched Fuso helplessly, waiting for a response from their signaler. And there it was. A quick series of flashes: Roger. Changing course.

Fuso didn't appear to change course at all, but that was to be expected from such a large ship. It would take several seconds for the rudder to even shift over in the best of circumstances, and these were hardly ideal.

The bridge crew were silent, and the sounds of battle seemed to fade away. After what felt like an eternity, a mountain of seawater and fire erupted over the bow of the Fuso. The torpedo had struck near the bow of the warship, ripping a gaping hole in the side of the ship. She started to tilt forward immediately. The crew of the Fumizuki watched in horror.

"Set... Set course for the Fuso, full speed. Prepare to rescue survivors." Nakajima let no emotion into his voice.

"Sir. That will bring us into range of the enemy guns."

"I know. Do it anyway."

Enioch likes this. <3

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Out of curiosity does the AI take into consideration disparity of forces when it goes to pick a fight(War)?  I suppose the Imperial Japan has the excuse that it's on the other end of the world fighting in its backyard, but still picking a fight with the preeminent Battlecruiser power on the High Seas with a couple pre-Dreads and some light forces seems dumb.
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Out of curiosity does the AI take into consideration disparity of forces when it goes to pick a fight(War)?  I suppose the Imperial Japan has the excuse that it's on the other end of the world fighting in its backyard, but still picking a fight with the preeminent Battlecruiser power on the High Seas with a couple pre-Dreads and some light forces seems dumb.

Yes, it does, I think. The size of your force (and even its composition) seems to affect tensions with other nations in different ways. For instance, anything that increases your capital ship force (building new capitals, refitting older ships with new tech,
Spoiler:
acquiring oil,
always rubs the Brits the wrong way.

The AI also seems to take into account the tension level with other nations. If you have more than one nations pissed off with you, chances are high that one or both of them will go "**** it, let's go". Because, keep in mind that tensions can still rise during wartime (for instance with the "submarine sinks cruise liner" event). And if a new power joins the fight, VPs get reset.

What is important to note is that, in this particular case, the Japanese only had three obsolescent light cruisers on their doorstep; they were, as you rightly point out,  halfway around the world from German Home waters; and FOUR other great powers, including the Brits were at yellow/orange levels of tension when the war was declared.
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[Transcript of the podcast "Historic Battles", episode 25, released on November 12th, 2013]

"Hello and welcome to Historic Battles, episode 25. I'm your host Ian McDonnough, and today, we're talking about the Battle of Southern Korea, which happened 100 years ago to the day today. With me here is friend of the show Franz Gustlaff, who you will remember from our episodes about the german-russian war of the early 20th century."

"Happy to be here, Ian, as always."

"Glad to have you. Now, for those of you who don't know what happened here, let me set the scene for you. It's November 1913. Germany and Japan are at war. Germany has just invaded Korea, but has been repulsed. The german Ubootflotte, which has been on station in the Pacific for some time now, has inflicted massive amounts of damage on Japanese shipping, even sinking a few surface warships, sometimes not even bothering to waste torpedoes and instead choosing to dispatch their targets using their deck guns. Now, Germany wants to bring this War to a close. They therefore send out their modern battlefleet under Admiral Galster around the world. Upon arrival, said fleet immediately manages to engage and sink a few isolated cruisers the IJN had on raiding duties, but nothing decisive is happening for a few days. Then, mid-November, Galster receives word of a huge convoy the IJN is putting together in order to resupply their forces in Korea. And when I say massive, I mean it: 17 merchantmen escorted by 15 light vessel, two light and 2 heavy cruisers and 2 battleships. Galster sends out his scouts, and at 11 AM on November 12th, 1913, his light cruisers report "enemy in sight".
Now, Franz, I know you've been looking forward to discussing this battle in particular for some time now, why is that?"

"Well, Ian, it's like this. I think this battle, more than others in that time period, exemplifies the insane pace of development that was happening in Germany in particular and in Europe in general at that time. It's 1913. 13 years ago, the germans were barely able to police their holdings in South-East Asia. Now, they're not only attacking one of the preeminent home powers of that region in its own backyard, they're doing so with some of the most modern ships available to anyone, while the IJN is lagging behind massively. In fact, Fuso and Yashima, the two japanese Battleships in this convoy, were built by the same yards that originally built Germany's large Battleships of prior to 1900, so we can directly see how much has happened here."

"British shipyards, you mean."

"Yes. I think that this battle, more than any of the ones that happened during the Russo-German war, really turned the German Navy from a regional powerhouse in the North Sea into a global one. In many ways, what the germans did here is something that very few other nations were capable at the time: To not only project power across thousands of miles, but be dominant wherever they choose to go. The Royal Navy was expected to do that, Germany however? Not so much."

"Alright then, let's get into the nitty-gritty of the battle then...."
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THERE, Enioch, ARE YOU HAPPY NOW
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BARELY APPEASED. YOU WILL BE SPARED MY WRATH. FOR NOW.
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