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Offline mjn.mixael

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Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
mvps where. WHERE

 

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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Ash looken' like he's about to drop one heck of a hot take.
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Sorry but I really can't get over all the meme possibilities for that pilot pic.

Like, the more I look at it the more I laugh my A** off. . :lol:
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Ash looken' like he's about to drop one heck of a hot take.

Sorry but I really can't get over all the meme possibilities for that pilot pic.

Like, the more I look at it the more I laugh my A** off. . :lol:

Yeah, that looks more like a "come hither" look to me. Like Ash is trying to get his girl into the sack for one last lay before he gets kakked by the Shivans. But really, can you blame him?
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Something broke with the 4.3.0 upload. You'll need the 4.3.1 upload, which in theory should work fine. But I'm going to bed.
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Just downloaded it and OH MY GOD the new Demon and Ravana class are just soooooo delicious and beautiful. I also love the new orion and how the GTA now has a similar look to it through the cruisers to the destroyers.(with the exception of the fenris and leviathan).

On question should the fenris textures be so shiny and reflective compared to the leviathans
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Actually Fenris got covered with gray paint in this revision, to match the rest. It's the same material I used for pretty much every terran ship, so the Leviathan should be the only ship that really sticks out from the rest.
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Debug Build cause a crash.

Quote
ASSERTION: "ti->texture.bitmap_id != -1" at trails.cpp:194
 Weapon trail shivlasertrail could not be loaded

Assert: "ti->texture.bitmap_id != -1"
File: trails.cpp
Line: 194
Weapon trail shivlasertrail could not be loaded

A Trail bitmap named shivlasertrail is referenced in the mv_effects-wep.tbm. But that file is nowhere in the VPs.
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
It's fantastic stuff, I just played some of the big fleet battle missions in the FS2 campaign and it's like a whole new game.

 

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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Been having issues of crashing to the desktop with this new upgrade. Log here: https://fsnebula.org/log/5f28bdfd1fa438536f5a5601
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
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Error: explode1.eff is in Unicode/UTF format and cannot be read by FreeSpace Open without turning on Unicode mode. Please convert it to ASCII/ANSI

File: encoding.cpp
Line: 93

ntdll.dll! ZwWaitForSingleObject + 20 bytes
KERNELBASE.dll! WaitForSingleObjectEx + 142 bytes
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KERNEL32.DLL! BaseThreadInitThunk + 20 bytes
ntdll.dll! RtlUserThreadStart + 33 bytes

The simple solution without having to convert these files back to ASCII is to add the "$Unicode mode: ON" into the game_settings.tbl mod table.
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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
I don't know what's going on - the only thing I can run is 3.8. I installed Knossos. I have 3 tabs

Media MVPs 4.3
GOTY mission pack
Retail FS2

if I do an upgrade, I get a 'partially installed' error. Then I wind up getting errors such as "I can't find the selected excecutable! the file ........ fsopen...is missing!"

I can semi-fix it by running KNOSSOS install again. Then one of the three tabs will boot me into FS2 3.8. According to the splash screen.

I notice I have multiple FSopen directories under Knossos/data/bin such as

FSO-3.8.0-3
FSO-19.0.0-RC1
FSO-20.1.0-2020813

sometimes I get a 19.0.0 (no -RC1) and I swear sometimes I get a 20.0.0 but maybe not.

I am totally lost because if I try to upgrade I just get those cannot find excecutable errors.

 

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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
I've tried out a couple of campaigns with the 4.3 VPs and in the techroom ship list when I select the Orion (and in gameplay on these campaigns) the Orion looks gray with little purple on it.  Whereas on the 4.3 loading screen it still looks kind of purple-ish like the previous Orion.

I just want to be sure, is the new (4.3 Orion) meant to be less purple looking than the previous Orions or am I having a technical problem?

 
Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Yes, the new Orion does look less blue/purple than the previous iteration. Mjn.Mixael once posted comparison pics of all three Orion versions (retail, improved retail, NuOrion) on the Discord to show that the previous Orion model was quite blue overall compared to the original model and the new textures were meant to scale back a bit on that.

 

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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
It's also my (very non-technical) understanding that PBR textures change in appearance based on the color and intensity of lighting they're exposed to, in the same way that real-world materials do so under different lighting conditions.  You can see this in the F3 lab if you select a PBR-textured ship like the Orion and then load backgrounds from different missions.

 
Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
That is most likely the reason the new model looks more blue-ish in the MVP loading screen.

 
Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Entry of the SC Cain has been removed from mv_shp_exp_flashes.cfg

Barracuda in mv_wep_exp_flashes.cfg is a non-canon weapon.

Also, I found this in mv_effects-wep.tbm/Fusion Mortar:
Code: [Select]
$Trail:
+Start Width: 0.0
+End Width: 0.0
+Start Alpha: 1.0
+End Alpha: 0.0
+Max Life: 1.0
+Bitmap: missiletrail01
If the width is meant to 0 it could be removed, elseway it should be edited.

 
Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
Turrets on the Leviathan have "check hull" flags.

 

Offline Tarvis

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Re: Freespace Upgrade 4.3.x Discussion Thread
When a Chronos blows up, there's a lot of z-fighting between the debris models and the regular model until the regular model gets fully erased.
Shrinking down the debris models a little bit so that they all fit inside the main model should solve this. (or at least offset a bit so their polygons do not overlap)

Same deal with Amazon Advanced

Example
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