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Voting closed: September 03, 2002, 12:38:27 am

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Here's a pollution question...?
Umm we (the US)... dropped LOTS of bombs back in the late 40's early 50's...

So....What long term effects did it have on: Weather, Weather patterns, the ozone layer... Cancer rates...Ect... Blah blah blah... (good questions but so many more to post..) .

Anyone got anwsers??? :confused:

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Offline CP5670

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Probably won't change much one way or another


This is what I think of it. Bush should have signed it anyway just to keep the other nations from having an excuse to complain about the US (:D), but it is not going to make much of a difference as far as the environment goes.

 

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This is what I think of it. Bush should have signed it anyway just to keep the other nations from having an excuse to complain about the US (:D), but it is not going to make much of a difference as far as the environment goes.

 
Hmm, environment. Humans have -1 of it, so that's not too good, but Tecanoids, on the other hand, have +2.
 
*runs*

  

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With views like your yours America is going to become increasingly isolated from Europe.



good.
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good.


Thats a sad attitute.

 

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Did it ever occur to you that perhaps America might be partly to blame? Obviously not directly but in some small way it might have pissed someone off just a little to much?

I'm - of course - not saying that what happened was a good thing.

 

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Gee... ya think?

Oh, maybe the Islamic militants really hate us because of our FREEDOMS, and because we're innately GOOD and they're EVIL, and they know it and thus want to kill us. :lol:

...OR, it could be because we sponsor a nation that was created artificially to house a people they already didn't like, kicking hundreds of thousands of people who'd lived there in the first place off of their land, and then embarked on what can pretty much be described as a series of genocidal campaigns against them. OR, it could be because we won't let our allies trade with many of their nations, thus slowly starving the people to death while the leaders hoard what money they can get in order to remain in power. OR it could be because we seem to be forcing our (to them, and to a degree to everyone) morally bankrupt culture on their people. OR it could be because the only nations we don't starve have governments that are outright puppets of our own, and allow their nations to be bled dry by our oil companies.


Nah, they hate us because we're FREE.

 

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Anyway, considering how developing nations, since they can't afford any "clean" energy sources, generally pollute a hell of a lot more than we do (though we used to just as much as they), I don't think new energy treaties are anything like in their best interests. For the US and a handful of relatively wealthy nations, ecological protection means the annoyance of having to pay a bit more for our power and fuel, and thus take often bothersome measures not to waste it. And, sometimes, not to destroy quite so much of our land, when we can recycle most raw materials for about twice the cost. For "developing", or poor-ass, nations, it simply means their power gets shut off, and they can't develop any more. Or even use 90% of the industry they have, since their three trades are high-pollution industries, their natural resources, and their cheap, essentially slave, sweatshop labor, making the cheaper of the products we consume. It's not a conspiracy, dude, or if it is, it's self-inflicted.

 

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Anyway, considering how developing nations, since they can't afford any "clean" energy sources, generally pollute a hell of a lot more than we do.


Yes, but not every family in a developing country owns five cars, and developing countries are less industrialised.
Its up to the rich countries to make sure the poorer countries dont develop as they did.

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And every person in a developed country does own 5 cars :wtf: Excuse me while I go wash my fleet of luxury cars

 
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And every person in a developed country does own 5 cars :wtf: Excuse me while I go wash my fleet of luxury cars
its was an exageration :rolleyes: duh...

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good.


I wouldn't care, 'cept that US pollution (the greatest per-capita rate IIRC) is helping kill the rest of the world.  Over here, for example, the seasons are actually changing - summer is effectively coming in autumn, and we're getting record flooding and rainfall.  Not to mention that, if the icecaps melt, it'll cool the gulfstream and really screw up Scotland.

 

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Oh great another blame the americans again...wow we must screw up everything and never do anything correctly.
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