[Pegasus V]

Do you think this would be a bad thing? What problems do you think would arise if the world accepted the US to be the supreme authority of Earth? I would like to know your opinions.

Thanks.

-PS. What about Australia? Crikey!

[Knight Templar]

lol grea topic, i'll make a "smart" post tommarow. As for auzzieland...

         every aeroplane with a roo' on the side! Crikey, Good Blimey!

[Galemp]

What do you mean, what if? The USA runs world politics, the UN, culture, and language already.

[Kamikaze]

Hopefully the supremacy would only be governmental... now if it was food/culture etc. I'd run away to Mars.... actually I'd run to mars anyway.

Now that we have our supreme idiot and evil dude ruler (Bush, in case you didn't know) I would feel very uncomfortable with him ruling the world. For 9-11 and the anthrax threats and whatnot...

Additionally I don't think a lot of the islamic states would take to it nicely...

[Pegasus V]

Personally, I think it would be a good idea that the US was to have supreme authority over Earth, on the condition that individual culture was not eliminated. Culture variety is a great part of humanity.

I say all this despite living in Australia. I would never wish to move to the US (perhaps visit San Fransisco, but that's all). But I do believe that the US has the best morals of any Earth nation in any epoche (timeframe). I understand that it has made mistakes, but they're nothing compared to other nations.

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Pegasus V
the best morals of any Earth nation in any epoche (timeframe). I understand that it has made mistakes, but they're nothing compared to other nations.

note that america is one of the youngest nations and has had plenty of base to develop their moral system.... (not that I think america has good morals) that also means a lot less time to make mistakes.

[Liberator]

United States of Earth.  I like it.

Just think half of congress wouldn't talk to the other half.  Oh, its already that way.

The US is an example of what can happen if people have the personal freedom to dream and to reach for said dream.  

The "third-world" countries that hate the USA need to spend more effort on building an infrastructure to support a modern economy.  You know simple stuff:

• Paved roads
• plumbing
• reliable power

If they build the things we have that they want, instead of shooting at us because we have them, they would have the freedom to do as they wish.

The largest part of what makes America work is that we don't let the Church as an entity make policy, at least not directly.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Liberator
If [third world countries] build the things we have that they want, instead of shooting at us because we have them, they would have the freedom to do as they wish.

Agreed!!

[CP5670]

That would work out quite nicely in my opinion, but at that point it wouldn't really matter whether it was the US or any of the other first-world nations controlling the world since they all operate pretty much the same way. (although I do like the US for its combination of science and immorality, but then again, the corporations are way too powerful)

The cultural systems will merge regardless of the governmental divisions; heck, we can even see it happening today. (everyone tries to imitate the US and the western world in general) In the end, instead of a hundred crappy cultures we will have one crappy culture; not much of an improvement, but inevitable.

Although I agree that Bush is quite an idiot, I really doubt he actually makes all the big decisions directly considering his intelligence. It is quite likely that he is simply a figurehead while it is the others in his administration who actually make the decisions by influencing him, since he is too stupid to think for the whole nation alone.

[Bobboau]

assuming it was a non violent take over, I don't think I'd be tarably upset living under any major wesurn democrocy, but I like haveing a buch so if one goes bad you can always jump ship

[Fineus]

I'm curious - if culture isn't affected then what does the US really have control over in this idea?

Suffice to say I think that it's a bad idea. I'm sorry but the level of resentment and so on would be to high - each country would have to join this thing voluntarily and those that don't join will immediatly see this growing order as the biggest threat to their own security out there - perhaps something similar to what happened with Russia and eastern Europe.

Also, you can't have cultures remain intact whilst imposing other peoples morals on a people. It just won't work, and the idea of the US running everything frightens the life out of me since (and I know I've said this before) Bush - whilst perhaps acting in the best interest of the loudest voices in America - is an idiot. Though I won't go into that here..

As an aside a friend and I were talking about the state of the planet yesterday and we were both worried that there might not be a planet in the next five years. That tension is a direct result of Bush and Blairs actions in bids for the "war on terrorism" amongst other things, she in particular reconed that we've not got much of a chance at this rate. I'm inclined to agree.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Liberator
h for said dream.  

The "third-world" countries that hate the USA need to spend more effort on building an infrastructure to support a modern economy.  You know simple stuff:

• Paved roads
• plumbing
• reliable power

If they build the things we have that they want, instead of shooting at us because we have them, they would have the freedom to do as they wish.[/B]

I force myself to stay calm when I read that...
Maybe you don't know about that, but they have no money? maybe you don't know why they have no money, either? Lots of words come into my mind when reading your post, but I don't want to be banned.

About earth being ruled by the US: I look at french corses. I look at southern ireland. I look at spanish basques. I look at all those independentist or revolutionary groups everywhere in the world. Hell, I even look at Stryke9!
I laugh :D yeah right, global gvt :lol:
Half the planet would nuke the USA rather than accepting that.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by venom2506
Lots of words come into my mind when reading your post, but I don't want to be banned.

Part of having an opinion is a part of what makes us human. Everyone should respect and consider someone else's opinion even if they don't agree with it. That way we can consider all of the possibilities.

[Cannikin]

Eliminate Bush, then all will be well...
(Woohoo! In 2004, I'll be 18 and can vote in the 2004 elections!! Here's one vote Bush won't be getting for reelection )

Anyway, the whole situation would depend on how the US took over and what rights would be gained by the people. I personally would love a single world government run by the US, but that's a dead dream from the start. People would simply not live or work together. You'd have far too many disagreements in the society that nothing will ever get accomplished. People would riot or worse. Militant terrorist groups and rebellions would grow with people who refuse to live under the supreme authority (sounds like Bosch eh?).  The list of chaos goes on...

[Nico]

Originally posted by Pegasus V


Part of having an opinion is a part of what makes us human. Everyone should respect and consider someone else's opinion even if they don't agree with it. That way we can consider all of the possibilities.

yeah, that's like telling ethiopians to buy more food coz that way they won't be hungry anymore. I don't call that an opinion man.

[Bobboau]

if you can't raise suply lower demand

[Nico]

edited, don't wanna start a flamewar, so I'll ignore this thread from now on.

[Bobboau]

why not, it's 9-11 and there's about five other political topics that are doomed to degrade in such a manner anyway

[Nico]

Originally posted by Bobboau
why not, it's 9-11 and there's about five other political topics that are doomed to degrade in such a manner anyway

it was about comparing ethiopians to american trees and national starving to fires, if you know what I mean...

[Bobboau]

did I make that analagy?

my coment was more that there should be some sort of population controle,
conraception, education, ect...
if these arn't implemented the people will never get out of poverty, and will continue to die in suffering squaler,
wich I would rather they didn't