[Nico]

Originally posted by Bobboau
did I make that analagy?

my coment was more that there should be some sort of population controle,
conraception, education, ect...
if these arn't implemented the people will never get out of poverty, and will continue to die in suffering squaler,
wich I would rather they didn't

problem is that they don't have the means to do that. that's the whole deal in fact.

bah, I prefer the hot chicks thread, I have too many pbs in real life to discuss others further more on HLP. Go on w/o me.

[NeoHunter]

If the US had world supremicy, I want to migrate to another planet.

[Warlock]

*sigh*

I love reading teenagers slamming the US.

As far as ANY world Govn. goes .... no way it'll work ...peroid. Too many whiney bastards out there that would prefer to bomb innocent ppl because they're too chicken **** to take up a true fight with a govn.

And Venom ... I think what was ment with the "We'll give them roads power and plumbing and they'll stop hating us" was simply LOOK at the countries that are mostly "The US is the Satan from our Bible!" don't have.  The guy was just making his comment saying perhaps if the US helped and gave them what they don't have perhaps the hate would fade. Not "well since their staring they can just get a damned job and go buy food."

Not like the US doesn't have 1000+ "Feed the Children" and such programs going on RIGHT NOW as it is while OUR poor and starving are having it basically said "Oh you're hungry ... get a job"

Don't read a flame until one's been typed

[NeoHunter]

Originally posted by Warlock
*sigh*
I love reading teenagers slamming the US.

Probably because we TEENAGERS can see what lousy foreign policies the US government has.

[CP5670]

And for the most part the members of the new generation are also the ones who have been taken in by the ethical disease and who label things as "good" and "bad." US foreign policy is perfectly fine; could be better, but in the other direction.

[Nico]

hey warlock, I know what I've read, and what was written means what I understood, and not what you said.
just read that sentence again and can't stop laughing ( I'm in class damnit!!! ), it just makes no sense

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by CP5670
And for the most part the members of the new generation are also the ones who have been taken in by the ethical disease and who label things as "good" and "bad."  

we are? I thought we were the more objective ones

[Warlock]

Originally posted by NeoHunter


Probably because we TEENAGERS can see what lousy foreign policies the US government has.

You're right.... we should disolve all the finacial aid and good will assistance that goes over seas. Everytime we set up a new Disater Relief fund for another country .... we could use that money here at home.

My point was there is that the folks here *****ing about the US this and the US that just simply do NOT seem to recall or have ever known.

NO country is perfect. None ever will be. But if things here suck so much,... wtf do we have thousands of ppl immigrating into the country ...both legally and Illegally...daily ? ?

[Warlock]

Originally posted by venom2506
hey warlock, I know what I've read, and what was written means what I understood, and not what you said.
just read that sentence again and can't stop laughing ( I'm in class damnit!!! ), it just makes no sense

Ummmmm ,.... is that anything like who's on second but someone's on third and noone's on first yet anyone is at bat?


Damnit man I've only had two cups of coffee! Don't do that to me this early LMAO

[Nico]

lol, sorry, it's almost 5pm here, I'm a bit tired too, for the opposite reason

[Warlock]

lol understood

[Styxx]

I actually kinda agree with CP on this one. I wouldn't really mind having a world govermnet, since patriotism and the like is just... well, stupid, in most cases. The problem is, with the current situation of the world's politics and economy, it would never work. The new government would be fighting bloody guerrilla wars everywhere, and terrorism would be even more widespread than it is today.

[Tiara]

World Government = good

World supremicy = BAD!

What I'm saying is that a world government is good as long as not 1 country from the current world would have control. I know it will get messy when other countries also involve itself in this government but its the only fair way for countries with different policies, beliefs etc to actually thrive within this government and not rebel.

[CP5670]

we are? I thought we were the more objective ones

well, I think we are just as objective (and as biased) as the last few generations, but our thinking is influenced in a slightly different way than theirs is; they go by nationalism, while we go by common ethics. (in the generality, of course)

I actually kinda agree with CP on this one.

someone mark down the date and time; this is quite a momentous occasion.

The problem is, with the current situation of the world's politics and economy, it would never work. The new government would be fighting bloody guerrilla wars everywhere, and terrorism would be even more widespread than it is today.

That's true, which is why I think it must gradually come about to work correctly so that the cultural systems have time to adjust themselves accordingly. There will still be force involved, but it will go on over long periods.

What I'm saying is that a world government is good as long as not 1 country from the current world would have control. I know it will get messy when other countries also involve itself in this government but its the only fair way for countries with different policies, beliefs etc to actually thrive within this government and not rebel.

What's probably going to happen though is that the powerful countries of today will have more of a say in the new government; this is quite inevitable as long as there is an imbalance of power in today's world. (i.e. all countries are not economically, etc. equal) The others can and will get involved, but they won't have control over as much as the big nations would. (and if they rebel you can always apply force )

Although I'm not sure that the policies/beliefs/etc. throughout the world will be all that different by the time this type of thing becomes practical, since as I said before, everyone tries to imitate the more prosperous nations even today. (in this case, the US)

[Nico]

Originally posted by CP5670
That's true, which is why I think it must gradually come about to work correctly so that the cultural systems have time to adjust themselves accordingly. There will still be force involved, but it will go on over long periods.

that's what we're doing with the european union, and w/o using force. Many little pbs, but hey, the system is still young.

[an0n]

*moves to Cuba*

[CP5670]

that's what we're doing with the european union, and w/o using force. Many little pbs, but hey, the system is still young.

Still, there have been many centuries of conflict and resentment between the involved parties, and the cultural systems retain these feelings for some time after. (they do fade away, but it take a while) I think that the main reason the European nations are teaming up at the moment is to be able to economically compete with the US, since they have a much better chance when working together. Note that there is little power imbalance in there though, i.e. the involved countries are all more or less equally powerful; this needs to be there for a peaceful cohesion to work out, and it doesn't really exist elsewhere in the world.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by an0n
*moves to Cuba*

* points at an0n and laughs *

[Top Gun]

I'd rather live under the sea.

[Top Gun]

Double Post.