[General Battuta]

Tilemapping is a terrible performance hog, too. A single UV'd ship will outperform a tilemapped ship all day every day. It's why the HTL Sath has a lower performance hit than the retail Sath.

That said, use what you need for your campaign.

[Droid803]

It's kinda amazing how a frickin 63MB POF outperforms a retail asset.
Perhaps its a testament to how much tilemapping sucks.

[Snail]

Dude. Overused? I've not seen the Reyena used once. At all. Anywhere.

[Droid803]

It reminds me of how ShadowGorrath kept saying the GTI Asteria is Overused.
I haven't seen it used. Anywhere.

[Nyctaeus]

But it's in a few unreleased mods - I have model made espacialy for that role, that's enough. I don't understand why I should use old model when I have new one, for me as good as old frigate.

Tilemapping is worse in a few aspects like optimalisation, but it makes model easier to fit to your expectations. For example, I want to use Solaris but I can't. It's textures don't fit to purpose. I need a good texture artist to make new textures or someone who can do remapping. For uvmapping ship with one texture, we also need texture artist. Of course, we can make ships with single texture - HTL Boreas has only one main texture [+ a few for turrets and "damage" added by Woo].

And please, don't remind me the HTL Sath. It's a cool model, RGA_Norris made a great job with it but it has terrible [in my opinion] textures. Too candyish, like anime-inspired. Totally unlike orginal Sathanas. Tilemapped HTLs like Orion and Hecate are keeping orginal character and feeling of the model. Current Sath don't look scary . Of course, a lot of HTL remakes of orginal ships have a decent textures, like Aten, Iceni, Colossus or Hades. Kudos to VA and Galemp.

Conclusion: Type of mapping doesn't matter for me. I'm old-school Freespace player and modder, important for me is keeping old-school look of ship but with details and all graphical news that SCP can provide.

[General Battuta]

Whatever you think of the HTL Sath textures, any problems you have with them have literally nothing to do with the fact that it's UV mapped.

[Qent]

Tilemapping is worse in a few aspects like optimalisation, but it makes model easier to fit to your expectations. For example, I want to use Solaris but I can't. It's textures don't fit to purpose. I need a good texture artist to make new textures or someone who can do remapping. For uvmapping ship with one texture, we also need texture artist. Of course, we can make ships with single texture - HTL Boreas has only one main texture [+ a few for turrets and "damage" added by Woo].

This is a good summary of why I love tilemapping.

[Shivan Hunter]

We should take all the HTLs we have now and tilemap them, especially the Medusa. And all new HTLs should be made in TrueSpace for good measure.

[Snail]

lol betrayal doesn't like the htl sathanas

[Dragon]

Well, it's not the only HTL Sathanas FSU is making, so he could just use the other one.
I like them both. 

[Nyctaeus]

lol betrayal doesn't like the htl sathanas

Correction: I don't like it's textures. Mesh is pretty cool.

Whatever you think of the HTL Sath textures, any problems you have with them have literally nothing to do with the fact that it's UV mapped.

Whatever you say, for me character and feelings of the ship are more important than optimalisation.

[General Battuta]

Whatever you say, for me character and feelings of the ship are more important than optimalisation.

Whatever you think of the HTL Sath textures, any problems you have with them have literally nothing to do with the fact that it's UV mapped.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? What I just said makes it clear that your issues have nothing to do with UV mapping.

[Nyctaeus]

Whatever you say, for me character and feelings of the ship are more important than optimalisation.

Whatever you think of the HTL Sath textures, any problems you have with them have literally nothing to do with the fact that it's UV mapped.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? What I just said makes it clear that your issues have nothing to do with UV mapping.

Hmmm. I didn't understeand you correcty. Sry, fault of my bad english. It's mapping is good, ony needs a new textures in my opinion.

[General Battuta]

Okay cool, sorry I was so snappy.

[Luis Dias]

I had this idea about a completely alien mothership, which had giant mechanical eyes that could follow any ship they wanted, which could be made if said eyes functioned as turrets, and it would have a very queer encounter with a terran armada, possibly "judging it", explaining what the shivans are up to, some kind of "epic" (rofl) story background to that.

It would be terrifying.

[Snail]

Kind of like the GTVAngelion.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

The Shivans also had their own. I forgot what it's called, though.

[AndrewofDoom]

The Shivans also had their own. I forgot what it's called, though.

Count Shiva if I remember correctly

[0rph3u5]

The eggheads are telling me to stop talking about the Ancients ... they have told we to stop showing pictures as well - I'm the one who pays the bills I can talk about the Ancients all I want! AND MORE PICTURES!
^{(even if the pictures are just showing models, background and lighting)}

[Commander Zane]

A Dyson Sphere in the background?